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Brian SATX · 01-14-2023, 12:07 PM

A friend brought them to breakfast for show and tell this morning. Both appear to be radiator caps. The round one is threaded and is too big for an A. Sugar package is for size reference.

Lawson Cox · 01-14-2023, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Brian SATX

A friend brought them to breakfast for show and tell this morning. Both appear to be radiator caps. The round one is threaded and is too big for an A. Sugar package is for size reference.

Picture would sure help. LOL

Brian SATX · 01-14-2023, 09:35 PM

Not sure what happened.

petehoovie · 01-14-2023, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Brian SATX

Not sure what happened.

1934 Ford Sedan

Terry,OH · 01-15-2023, 07:46 AM

If all three of the caps shown above in post #4 appear alike, they are poor reproductions of the 34 passenger car radiator cap.

DavidG · 01-15-2023, 10:22 AM

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The one upside down in the top of the first photo and that in #4 may be a '33 aftermarket cap. In any event, it is not an original equipment Ford cap.

Allinger · 01-15-2023, 05:12 PM

What characteristics make it aftermarket? Is this 34 cap original?

petehoovie · 01-15-2023, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Allinger

What characteristics make it aftermarket? Is this 34 cap original?

DavidG · 01-15-2023, 05:39 PM

The various pieces that attach to the underside of the cap in photos #7 and #8 are those of an original Ford cap. If you look closely at the underside of the cap in photo #4 you will note that those components are entirely different.

Allinger · 01-15-2023, 06:52 PM

To fully understand, there are no identifiable differences on top of the cap? Only the attached components that attach the cap to the underside of the cap are the difference?
Originally nickel or chrome finish?

deuce lover · 01-16-2023, 07:44 AM

Some period aftermarket 33 and 34 caps I have seen are plated steel clad crimped over a steel base.There are also 2 rivets that secure the components to the base.

Terry,OH · 01-16-2023, 11:26 AM

Original caps have the proper Ford part number embossed on the bottom of the die casting. They are without any embossment such as "Drake, Vintique or Argentina"

Allinger · 01-16-2023, 05:49 PM

I had assumed this one was original, but there are no markings that I can find. Does that make it an old after market piece? And I assume it was originally nickel finish?
Thanks for everyone's help with this!

DavidG · 01-16-2023, 06:30 PM

It may have a Ford part number cast into the bottom if original, but concealed by the gasket, The single screw attachment and the cup-shaped bottom piece are consistent with an original cap.

Newc · 01-16-2023, 06:39 PM

V8 Judges are not required to remove those caps right? Newc

DavidG · 01-16-2023, 06:56 PM

Correct. You may break their arms if they attempt it.

Terry,OH · 01-17-2023, 07:00 AM

Allinger: It appears the cap you have may have been painted gray at one time. If so it may be a war production item. Without any embossing of a part number I would consider it a reproduction. Even with the gasket and attachment connected you should be able to see at least part of the part number.

Allinger · 01-17-2023, 01:16 PM

Thank you DavidG and Terry,OH for the valuable information. The numbers are there, just needed a flashlight and magnifier to see them.

petehoovie · 01-17-2023, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Allinger

Thank you DavidG and Terry,OH for the valuable information. The numbers are there, just needed a flashlight and magnifier to see them.

Part # 46-8100-B

Terry,OH · 01-19-2023, 08:40 AM

46-8100-B is for trucks 1934 to 36 and commercial vehicles 34 to 35.

01-14-2023, 12:07 PM	#1
Brian SATX Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 821	Any idea what year and car these are for? A friend brought them to breakfast for show and tell this morning. Both appear to be radiator caps. The round one is threaded and is too big for an A. Sugar package is for size reference. __________________ Brian SATX

01-15-2023, 07:46 AM	#5
Terry,OH Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 4,751	Re: Any idea what year and car these are for? If all three of the caps shown above in post #4 appear alike, they are poor reproductions of the 34 passenger car radiator cap.

01-15-2023, 10:22 AM	#6
DavidG Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: southeastern Michigan Posts: 10,101	Re: Any idea what year and car these are for? Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) The one upside down in the top of the first photo and that in #4 may be a '33 aftermarket cap. In any event, it is not an original equipment Ford cap.

01-15-2023, 05:39 PM	#9
DavidG Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: southeastern Michigan Posts: 10,101	Re: Any idea what year and car these are for? The various pieces that attach to the underside of the cap in photos #7 and #8 are those of an original Ford cap. If you look closely at the underside of the cap in photo #4 you will note that those components are entirely different.

01-15-2023, 06:52 PM	#10
Allinger Member Join Date: Nov 2018 Location: Rock Hill, SC Posts: 46	Re: Any idea what year and car these are for? To fully understand, there are no identifiable differences on top of the cap? Only the attached components that attach the cap to the underside of the cap are the difference? Originally nickel or chrome finish?

01-16-2023, 07:44 AM	#11
deuce lover Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Southern France Posts: 5,307	Re: Any idea what year and car these are for? Some period aftermarket 33 and 34 caps I have seen are plated steel clad crimped over a steel base.There are also 2 rivets that secure the components to the base.

01-16-2023, 11:26 AM	#12
Terry,OH Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 4,751	Re: Any idea what year and car these are for? Original caps have the proper Ford part number embossed on the bottom of the die casting. They are without any embossment such as "Drake, Vintique or Argentina"

01-16-2023, 06:30 PM	#14
DavidG Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: southeastern Michigan Posts: 10,101	Re: Any idea what year and car these are for? It may have a Ford part number cast into the bottom if original, but concealed by the gasket, The single screw attachment and the cup-shaped bottom piece are consistent with an original cap.

01-16-2023, 06:39 PM	#15
Newc Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 2,488	Re: Any idea what year and car these are for? V8 Judges are not required to remove those caps right? Newc

01-16-2023, 06:56 PM	#16
DavidG Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: southeastern Michigan Posts: 10,101	Re: Any idea what year and car these are for? Correct. You may break their arms if they attempt it.

01-17-2023, 07:00 AM	#17
Terry,OH Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 4,751	Re: Any idea what year and car these are for? Allinger: It appears the cap you have may have been painted gray at one time. If so it may be a war production item. Without any embossing of a part number I would consider it a reproduction. Even with the gasket and attachment connected you should be able to see at least part of the part number.

01-19-2023, 08:40 AM	#20
Terry,OH Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 4,751	Re: Any idea what year and car these are for? 46-8100-B is for trucks 1934 to 36 and commercial vehicles 34 to 35.