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02-10-2022, 09:04 AM | #1 |
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Advice requested
I recently purchased a Model A (not my first) and am seeking advice on how to permanently repair a very slow gasoline leak where the steering column support is mounted to the bottom gasoline tank on the drivers side.
Any opinions are welcome. I have been around old cars all my life and suspect there is someone who has expertise or specializes in correcting this problem for others? Ron |
02-10-2022, 09:50 AM | #2 |
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Re: Advice requested
If the was mine, I would remove the tank and take t to a radiator reair shop and have the steering column support soldered. I would also discontinue using the steering support on the gas tank. Instead, move the support as shown in the attached slide.
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02-10-2022, 10:19 AM | #3 |
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Re: Advice requested
Bob is correct- the right way to do it.
there are epoxies for temporary fix's, but the problem will eventually reoccur. As Bob says, dont use that support any longer. |
02-10-2022, 11:37 AM | #4 |
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Re: Advice requested
From experience I found there is no easy way! As they said above pull the tank!
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02-10-2022, 11:44 AM | #5 |
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No quick/easy fix
All above is good advice. |
02-10-2022, 12:09 PM | #6 |
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02-10-2022, 12:31 PM | #7 |
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Re: Advice requested
I have the same problem on mine. It doesn't leak enough to smell much or drip, but will get kind of greasy over time. At this point I just wrap a rag around it and change it out once a year. I have been told that proper cleaning and gas tank epoxy from Napa will seal it, I'm going to try it some time. I also have the other style steering bracket I need to get on there, once again, haven't got to it yet. Need more round tuits.
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02-10-2022, 12:53 PM | #8 |
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Re: Advice requested
I had a leak similar to eagle's when I got my cabriolet nineteen years ago. No smell or drip, just an oily discoloration at the column mount. I repaired it with silicone and haven't had any problem since, after over 25,000 miles.
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02-10-2022, 04:18 PM | #9 |
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Re: Advice requested
Bob Bidonde
Thank you for the complete answer. I am going to do exactly as you suggested. That will be a excellent permanent fix for the problem. Ron Patterson |
02-10-2022, 06:48 PM | #10 |
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Ron -
Check your private messages in the top right corner of this webpage. 'Good to see you come over on the Model A team! Marshall |
02-10-2022, 08:07 PM | #11 |
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Hey Ron,
You rebuilt my Model T coils 16 years ago. Still going strong! Hope you're still doing those great rebuilds on coils and generators. Good luck with your latest toy. Tom L. |
02-10-2022, 08:17 PM | #12 |
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Re: Advice requested
28 - 29 gas tan is really not that hard to remove. I still have a 29 that we removed the tank on and sloshed it over 40 years ago.
No leak, no smells. If done correctly, sloshing the tank will fix your problem. Also, don’t pull on the steering wheel when getting in or out. Makes things worse. Enjoy. |
02-11-2022, 05:56 PM | #13 |
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Re: Advice requested
Bob Bidonde
Can you tell me if the solution you proposed above (I.E. discontinue using the steering support on the gas tank. Instead, move the support as shown in the attached slide) will work on a ("open" car) 1929 Phaeton? Thanks Ron Patterson |
02-12-2022, 10:54 AM | #14 |
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These old tanks aren't getting any newer for sure. Until some company decides to make the investment in tooling and start reproducing them, we are stuck with either doing the hard work or replacing it with another usable part.
The only way to do a very long term repair is to cut the tank open and remove the related steering column support piece or pieces and reinforce the whole area inside as well as weld up any crack that might be there. Chances are, a person would find other ills that need repair inside there before reinstallation of the column support & welding the tank back together. Any other way is just not quite a restoration but more of a stop gap measure that may or may not last or look original to the design. |
02-14-2022, 03:48 AM | #15 |
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Mine as well on the 1913 Still going strong -Karl
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