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PeteVS · 10-17-2013, 08:15 PM

Got the EV8 Times today and the rear cover (and an article inside) highlight a '35 pickup, but it appears to have wide five wheels. I'm a newbie to all this, but weren't wide five wheels only '36 to '39? Forgive me if I'm wrong...

Lawson Cox · 10-17-2013, 08:28 PM

I have never seen or read anything about a 35 with wide 5 wheels. Maybe someone in the past 77 years changed it over to wide 5's. And, to throw a further monkey wrench into the equation, it could possibly be a very late 35 that had 36 wheels. What is the serial number. That would help, possibly. What do you know about the history of the truck??

PeteVS · 10-17-2013, 08:38 PM

All I know is what I read on page 49 of the September/October issue of the V8 Times. Doesn't give a serial number or anything. Were wide five wheels put on late production '35 pickups?

dinokruzordinance · 10-17-2013, 08:43 PM

My 1936 halfton pickup has wide 5 if that helps?

banjoQ · 10-17-2013, 08:49 PM

Mine Too-

Straightpipes · 10-17-2013, 08:57 PM

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I think it's a 36 with 35 parts.

JM 35 Sedan · 10-17-2013, 09:23 PM

I saw that when my Times arrived today. I do not think they are actually wide 5 wheels. I looked carefully at those and I believe they are some type of wheel (spoke) covers. The small center cap appears to be the stock '35 type hubcap. The covers fit something like the Lyons(sp?) after market covers but give the appearance of artilary wheels or maybe spider caps. Never saw anything like those before.

SSsssteamer · 10-17-2013, 10:49 PM

I notice the fatter wheels and caps too. They look much like the accessory General Jumbo wheels and caps that were so often used on our Fords of the early thirties. They had the smaller wheel lug pattern like the 1932-1935 Ford would have used. The tires in the V8 Times photo look to be a bit more balloon than the 600 X 16 tires that the 1935 should have had on it. I had a set of General Jumbos about 20 years ago that I had planned on using on my 1935 convertible. I ended up selling them at the Portland Swap Meet. These wheels and caps still turn up at the swap meets from time to time. I don't remember the General Jumbo caps as having the 1935 V-8 centers though. The Jumbo caps were small, much like the 1932 to 1935 caps. Don Nicoli's 1935 pick-up's front bumper looked to be a 1936 bumper with the turned down ends instead of the 1935 wrap around ends. Starting with a pile of parts, Don's pick-up went quickly together in four years. Nice job and well done!

JM 35 Sedan · 10-18-2013, 07:34 AM

Yes, I agree with you on the front bumper. It appears to be a '36 passenger car front bumper. I wanted to see a picture with a full front view to make sure before I mentioned that. At this years GNM in Lake Tahoe he had this truck in Touring A which tells me he knows many things on the truck are not correct for '35 production. The '35 and '36 1/2T PU front bumpers looked the same as a passenger car at the ends, but was straight across with no dip in the center. Other light Ford commercial vehicles in '35 and '36 did shared the same passenger car bumpers with the center dip.

Edited to make corrections to '35 & '36 PU bumper descriptions

Don Rogers · 10-18-2013, 10:19 AM

Heres a photo of a 35 commercial vehicle with jumbo wheels/tires and the correct straight bumper (50-17757) I saw thid beautiful pickup at Tahoe but should have paid more attention to the wheels. They are not General Jumbos and I don't think that they are standard 35 wire wheels with wheel covers.

Brendan · 10-18-2013, 07:17 PM

I saw that pickup in Tahoe, the body was straight as a board, I think the wheals are after market. something he bought when he restored the pickup

10-17-2013, 08:15 PM	#1
PeteVS Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: FP, NJ Posts: 2,770	'35 Pickup with wide five wheels??? Got the EV8 Times today and the rear cover (and an article inside) highlight a '35 pickup, but it appears to have wide five wheels. I'm a newbie to all this, but weren't wide five wheels only '36 to '39? Forgive me if I'm wrong... __________________ Don't never get rid of nuthin!

10-17-2013, 08:28 PM	#2
Lawson Cox Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Above the gnat line in Georgia Posts: 7,009	Re: '35 Pickup with wide five wheels??? I have never seen or read anything about a 35 with wide 5 wheels. Maybe someone in the past 77 years changed it over to wide 5's. And, to throw a further monkey wrench into the equation, it could possibly be a very late 35 that had 36 wheels. What is the serial number. That would help, possibly. What do you know about the history of the truck?? __________________ Life is like a roll of toilet paper. The closer to the end, the faster it goes. It is better to be seen, than viewed. "We sleep safe in our beds because rough men stand ready in the night to visit violence on those who would do us harm".

10-17-2013, 08:38 PM	#3
PeteVS Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: FP, NJ Posts: 2,770	Re: '35 Pickup with wide five wheels??? All I know is what I read on page 49 of the September/October issue of the V8 Times. Doesn't give a serial number or anything. Were wide five wheels put on late production '35 pickups? __________________ Don't never get rid of nuthin!

10-17-2013, 08:43 PM	#4
dinokruzordinance Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Benton Arkansas Posts: 31	Re: '35 Pickup with wide five wheels??? My 1936 halfton pickup has wide 5 if that helps?

10-17-2013, 08:49 PM	#5
banjoQ Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Pacifica, Ca. Posts: 299	Re: '35 Pickup with wide five wheels??? Mine Too- Last edited by banjoQ; 10-17-2013 at 08:50 PM. Reason: spelling

10-17-2013, 08:57 PM	#6
Straightpipes Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Ballston Spa, NY Posts: 789	Re: '35 Pickup with wide five wheels??? Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) I think it's a 36 with 35 parts.

10-17-2013, 09:23 PM	#7
JM 35 Sedan Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Near Rising Sun, Maryland Posts: 10,858	Re: '35 Pickup with wide five wheels??? I saw that when my Times arrived today. I do not think they are actually wide 5 wheels. I looked carefully at those and I believe they are some type of wheel (spoke) covers. The small center cap appears to be the stock '35 type hubcap. The covers fit something like the Lyons(sp?) after market covers but give the appearance of artilary wheels or maybe spider caps. Never saw anything like those before. __________________ *John* *"Never give up on what you really want to do. The person with big dreams is more powerful than one with all the facts". Albert Einstein* Last edited by JM 35 Sedan; 10-17-2013 at 09:31 PM.

10-17-2013, 10:49 PM	#8
SSsssteamer Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Sedro-Woolley, WA Posts: 1,023	Re: '35 Pickup with wide five wheels??? I notice the fatter wheels and caps too. They look much like the accessory General Jumbo wheels and caps that were so often used on our Fords of the early thirties. They had the smaller wheel lug pattern like the 1932-1935 Ford would have used. The tires in the V8 Times photo look to be a bit more balloon than the 600 X 16 tires that the 1935 should have had on it. I had a set of General Jumbos about 20 years ago that I had planned on using on my 1935 convertible. I ended up selling them at the Portland Swap Meet. These wheels and caps still turn up at the swap meets from time to time. I don't remember the General Jumbo caps as having the 1935 V-8 centers though. The Jumbo caps were small, much like the 1932 to 1935 caps. Don Nicoli's 1935 pick-up's front bumper looked to be a 1936 bumper with the turned down ends instead of the 1935 wrap around ends. Starting with a pile of parts, Don's pick-up went quickly together in four years. Nice job and well done!

10-18-2013, 07:34 AM	#9
JM 35 Sedan Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Near Rising Sun, Maryland Posts: 10,858	Re: '35 Pickup with wide five wheels??? Yes, I agree with you on the front bumper. It appears to be a '36 passenger car front bumper. I wanted to see a picture with a full front view to make sure before I mentioned that. At this years GNM in Lake Tahoe he had this truck in Touring A which tells me he knows many things on the truck are not correct for '35 production. The '35 and '36 1/2T PU front bumpers looked the same as a passenger car at the ends, but was straight across with no dip in the center. Other light Ford commercial vehicles in '35 and '36 did shared the same passenger car bumpers with the center dip. Edited to make corrections to '35 & '36 PU bumper descriptions __________________ *John* *"Never give up on what you really want to do. The person with big dreams is more powerful than one with all the facts". Albert Einstein* Last edited by JM 35 Sedan; 10-19-2013 at 01:10 PM. Reason: Correction to '35 & '36 bumper discriptions

10-18-2013, 07:17 PM	#11
Brendan Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: At my kitchen table in Santa Rosa, Ca Posts: 2,903	Re: '35 Pickup with wide five wheels??? I saw that pickup in Tahoe, the body was straight as a board, I think the wheals are after market. something he bought when he restored the pickup __________________ If it would have been a snake it would have bit ya! i can't spell my way out of a paper bag!