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Y-Blockhead · 12-29-2015, 06:46 PM

A while back a member was looking for a Fumaze... There's one on epay, not mine.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/201490198680...%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

DougVieyra · 12-29-2015, 07:39 PM

The Original 1930's Fumaze had a seamed tubing. The later reproductions made during the 1970's/'80's were a very good duplicate, but the long tubing was a solid piece of pipe and not a seamed tubing like the originals. The top cover of the 1970's reproduction was nearly identical to the original from 1930's. So look for the seamed tubing if you want the original 1930's version. I could not tell from the photos on eBay, if the ebay Fumaze had a seam, or was solid.

But it is really not a big thing - as each year that goes by, there are fewer and fewer people who would know the difference - or care.

glenn in camino · 12-29-2015, 08:25 PM

You only need a Fumaze if your rings are worn out or not seated properly which causes blow by.

Y-Blockhead · 12-29-2015, 09:00 PM

It also acts as a Road Draft Tube to remove moisture, acids and unburned hydrocarbons from the combustion process.

160B · 12-29-2015, 10:46 PM

here is a photo of an original and a repop

Original

Repop

DougVieyra · 12-30-2015, 01:18 AM

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Thanks 160B for the photos to illustrate the differences in the top cover. I knew there were subtle differences, but was too lazy to go the basement and look at my three (two originals, and one reproduction). And in any event, I do not have the camera / photo expertise to take a photo nor to put it on the Ford Barn Forum.

For all of you who DO take the time to better illustrate your point, I offer both a great round of applause and a 'Thank you for a job well done'. Some of us 'old timers' (well, me at least) are prisoners of technological ineptitude.

Chuck Sea/Tac · 12-30-2015, 02:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by glenn in camino

You only need a Fumaze if your rings are worn out or not seated properly which causes blow by.

I disagree, all engines have "some" blowby otherwise why do you need a breathable oil cap? Dumping those fumes no matter how much makes the cockpit have less fumes.

burner31 · 12-30-2015, 10:36 AM

OK, now it makes sense

burner31 · 12-30-2015, 10:41 AM

Is there any type of filter/screen that goes in there?

CarlG · 12-30-2015, 10:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by burner31

Is there any type of filter/screen that goes in there?

Nope

DougVieyra · 12-30-2015, 12:05 PM

No need for a 'filter'. The whole Idea is to get the 'blow by' out and down to the low exiting engine pan region, and away from the holes in the petals/S.column, thereby reducing engine fumes into the driver's compartment interior.

Y-Blockhead · 12-30-2015, 02:12 PM

Just ensure you pore your oil in the correct hole when refilling, haha...

CarlG · 12-30-2015, 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Y-Blockhead

Just ensure you pore your oil in the correct hole when refilling, haha...

I've seen that happen before.

The guy that this happened to couldn't figure out why he had this big oil slick under his car.

TK in LA · 12-31-2015, 05:41 PM

Here a few more pictures of the tube.

duke36 · 01-01-2016, 12:37 PM

Does Fumaze help breathing in addition to directing fumes downward?

Joop · 01-05-2016, 09:44 AM

Sold for $322.50 + $8.85 after 14 bids

,,,

Steve_Mack_CT · 01-05-2016, 11:11 AM

OK that is enough for me to make a mental note and check the one on my car.

Not sure how necessary the manifold heater and Fumaze are on a roadster but for some reason I have both accesories - but no side curtains..

mhsprecher · 01-05-2016, 11:30 AM

Wow. I paid $60 for mine. I think it is an original, but I need to check. I was interested in that one, but forgot about it. Just as well.

mngreen · 01-05-2016, 03:42 PM

Any fumaze type products made for the Model B block? I could use one...

TinCup · 01-05-2016, 03:47 PM

Wow I really like mine on my car. Found at the Chickasha Pre War Swap meet. Paid less than 60 for mine. Bead blasted it and it turned out great. It's the original not the repop. Had to make a strap but it works great.

fivefix · 01-05-2016, 05:02 PM

I have been looking for a Fumaze for some time and I have to ask....

...are these really valued at $322.50 or did this eBay auction get out of hand?

Joop · 01-05-2016, 05:13 PM

I sell mine for that. :-)

Charlie Stephens · 01-05-2016, 05:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mngreen

Any fumaze type products made for the Model B block? I could use one...

The hole in the block for the crankcase ventilation was the same 1928 through 1934. Therefore the answer to your question is yes. I am running a Fumaze on my Model B engine.

Charlie Stephens

henry's 31 · 01-05-2016, 07:35 PM

I think the auction got out of hand. The real value is in the 100.00 dollar range. But as you can see the cost of an item depends on what people are willing to pay. I have 3 Model A's and they all have a Fumaze. I had them powder coated. I like the looks on the nicely painted engine.

Joop · 01-05-2016, 07:48 PM

Out of hand maybe but last one sold for $240.

,,

duke36 · 01-06-2016, 02:38 PM

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My question probably wasn't too clear but what I'm trying to ascertain is whether the Fumaze would give better breathing compared to the Model B larger fill pipe and fine-screened cap. My Fumaze had some copper mesh stuffed in the cap which we removed to aid in breathing. We'd like to try our '32 breather pipe and see if the plastic bag test method would show a discernible comparison between the two types ???

Y-Blockhead · 02-15-2016, 07:46 PM

There's another Fumaze on epay if anyone is interested... http://www.ebay.com/itm/272130527296...%3AMEBIDX%3AIT Currently at $76 with 3 hours left. Be interesting to see what it goes for. Last one went for $322.

burner31 · 02-15-2016, 10:17 PM

I was the first to bid on that one
It's $124 now, not worth it to me

sphanna · 02-15-2016, 10:22 PM

Rip--
I think that the answer to your question is, yes. I think that if the tube extends below enough to be in the slip stream that there would be a slightly lower pressure generated which would help evacuate the crank case. Please don't take my answer as gospel as I do not claim to be a guru here as many are. I was just surprised that you did not get an answer.

Tom Wesenberg · 02-15-2016, 10:58 PM

My engine came with a flex tube oil filler cap, and it does a good job of evacuating the oil fumes. It also keeps the left side of the engine from getting oily.

CarlG · 02-15-2016, 11:05 PM

Sold !

$155.50

silversink · 02-15-2016, 11:58 PM

how do these work with the eng. pans

Y-Blockhead · 02-16-2016, 01:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by silversink

how do these work with the eng. pans

In my opinion with engine pans I don't believe the Fumaze works as well as the flexible tube type that you can route down into the slip stream under the car, creating a low pressure at the end of the tube.

But the Fumaze is more 'period correct'.

sphanna · 02-16-2016, 10:46 AM

I have the flex tube type. That is why I was not wanting to sound too dogmatic with my previous post. The flex tube definately creates a low pressure at the outlet in the slip stream. Works well with engine pans installed. Bernoulli principle.

BILL WILLIAMSON · 02-16-2016, 03:20 PM

Where in the world do some folks get enough MONEY to waste on frivolous goodies??? I'm always near broke! P.M. me for my mailing address.
Bill Bent

Mitch//pa · 02-16-2016, 03:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BILL WILLIAMSON

Where in the world do some folks get enough MONEY to waste on frivolous goodies??? I'm always near broke! P.M. me for my mailing address.
Bill Bent

Con artist DAD...

harleytoprock · 02-16-2016, 06:36 PM

Bill, I would send you some money but I'm so poor I can't pay attention.

BILL WILLIAMSON · 02-16-2016, 07:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by harleytoprock

Bill, I would send you some money but I'm so poor I can't pay attention.

I was jist JESTING---The Dog sed maybe he should send YOU sum GREENIES I think he LIKES you
Bill W.

duke36 · 02-16-2016, 07:57 PM

good question about the engine pans; I added a piece of prebent black radiator rubber hose to the bottom of the Fumaze and extended it out and down the pan to direct the fumes, if any under the car. I wonder if the high compression head ( came on my engine) changes the breathing some which appears to be a little bit "more" than I'm used to. I'm now trying a '32 style larger pipe and cap and see how that performs.

BILL WILLIAMSON · 02-16-2016, 09:23 PM

Vermin has a flip top filler, but the flexible tube is missing. I'll use a piece of flexible electrical conduit. (CHEEP!)
A friend had one, his blow by was SO bad, he extended the tube to the BACK of the truck! BUT, he ran the truck from here to Canada & back! AMAZING!
Bill W.

12-29-2015, 06:46 PM	#1
Y-Blockhead Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Redondo Beach, CA Posts: 5,849	Fumaze A while back a member was looking for a Fumaze... There's one on epay, not mine. http://www.ebay.com/itm/201490198680...%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

12-29-2015, 07:39 PM	#2
DougVieyra Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Eureka, California Posts: 1,716	Re: Fumaze The Original 1930's Fumaze had a seamed tubing. The later reproductions made during the 1970's/'80's were a very good duplicate, but the long tubing was a solid piece of pipe and not a seamed tubing like the originals. The top cover of the 1970's reproduction was nearly identical to the original from 1930's. So look for the seamed tubing if you want the original 1930's version. I could not tell from the photos on eBay, if the ebay Fumaze had a seam, or was solid. But it is really not a big thing - as each year that goes by, there are fewer and fewer people who would know the difference - or care.

12-29-2015, 08:25 PM	#3
glenn in camino Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Camino, CA. Posts: 3,086	Re: Fumaze You only need a Fumaze if your rings are worn out or not seated properly which causes blow by.

12-29-2015, 09:00 PM	#4
Y-Blockhead Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Redondo Beach, CA Posts: 5,849	Re: Fumaze It also acts as a Road Draft Tube to remove moisture, acids and unburned hydrocarbons from the combustion process.

12-29-2015, 10:46 PM	#5
160B Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Port Orchard, WA Posts: 1,498	Re: Fumaze here is a photo of an original and a repop Original Repop __________________ 1931 160B & 1931 68B If you don't have time to do it right the 1st time, how do you have time to do it the 2nd time?

12-30-2015, 01:18 AM	#6
DougVieyra Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Eureka, California Posts: 1,716	Re: Fumaze Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) Thanks 160B for the photos to illustrate the differences in the top cover. I knew there were subtle differences, but was too lazy to go the basement and look at my three (two originals, and one reproduction). And in any event, I do not have the camera / photo expertise to take a photo nor to put it on the Ford Barn Forum. For all of you who DO take the time to better illustrate your point, I offer both a great round of applause and a 'Thank you for a job well done'. Some of us 'old timers' (well, me at least) are prisoners of technological ineptitude.

12-30-2015, 12:05 PM	#11
DougVieyra Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Eureka, California Posts: 1,716	Re: Fumaze No need for a 'filter'. The whole Idea is to get the 'blow by' out and down to the low exiting engine pan region, and away from the holes in the petals/S.column, thereby reducing engine fumes into the driver's compartment interior.

12-30-2015, 02:12 PM	#12
Y-Blockhead Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Redondo Beach, CA Posts: 5,849	Re: Fumaze Just ensure you pore your oil in the correct hole when refilling, haha...

01-01-2016, 12:37 PM	#15
duke36 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Posts: 1,414	Re: Fumaze Does Fumaze help breathing in addition to directing fumes downward? Last edited by duke36; 01-03-2016 at 02:09 PM. Reason: got answer

01-05-2016, 09:44 AM	#16
Joop Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Glendale, AZ Posts: 2,953	Re: Fumaze Sold for $322.50 + $8.85 after 14 bids ,,,

01-05-2016, 11:11 AM	#17
Steve_Mack_CT Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Central CT Posts: 348	Re: Fumaze OK that is enough for me to make a mental note and check the one on my car. Not sure how necessary the manifold heater and Fumaze are on a roadster but for some reason I have both accesories - but no side curtains.. __________________ Steve 1930 Model A Roadster

01-05-2016, 11:30 AM	#18
mhsprecher Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Takoma Park, MD Posts: 2,817	Re: Fumaze Wow. I paid $60 for mine. I think it is an original, but I need to check. I was interested in that one, but forgot about it. Just as well.

01-05-2016, 03:42 PM	#19
mngreen Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Rancho Santa Margarita, CA Posts: 155	Re: Fumaze Any fumaze type products made for the Model B block? I could use one...

01-05-2016, 05:02 PM	#21
fivefix Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Muscatine, IA Posts: 74	Re: Fumaze I have been looking for a Fumaze for some time and I have to ask.... ...are these really valued at $322.50 or did this eBay auction get out of hand?

01-05-2016, 05:13 PM	#22
Joop Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Glendale, AZ Posts: 2,953	Re: Fumaze I sell mine for that. :-)

01-05-2016, 07:35 PM	#24
henry's 31 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Columbus(Cataula) Georgia Posts: 849	Re: Fumaze I think the auction got out of hand. The real value is in the 100.00 dollar range. But as you can see the cost of an item depends on what people are willing to pay. I have 3 Model A's and they all have a Fumaze. I had them powder coated. I like the looks on the nicely painted engine. __________________ Henry' s 31

01-05-2016, 07:48 PM	#25
Joop Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Glendale, AZ Posts: 2,953	Re: Fumaze Out of hand maybe but last one sold for $240. ,,

01-06-2016, 02:38 PM	#26
duke36 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Posts: 1,414	Re: Fumaze Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) My question probably wasn't too clear but what I'm trying to ascertain is whether the Fumaze would give better breathing compared to the Model B larger fill pipe and fine-screened cap. My Fumaze had some copper mesh stuffed in the cap which we removed to aid in breathing. We'd like to try our '32 breather pipe and see if the plastic bag test method would show a discernible comparison between the two types ???

02-15-2016, 07:46 PM	#27
Y-Blockhead Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Redondo Beach, CA Posts: 5,849	Re: Fumaze There's another Fumaze on epay if anyone is interested... http://www.ebay.com/itm/272130527296...%3AMEBIDX%3AIT Currently at $76 with 3 hours left. Be interesting to see what it goes for. Last one went for $322.

02-15-2016, 10:17 PM	#28
burner31 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Shawnee, Ok Posts: 3,471	Re: Fumaze I was the first to bid on that one It's $124 now, not worth it to me __________________ Keith Shawnee OK '31 SW 160-B

02-15-2016, 10:22 PM	#29
sphanna Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Polk City, Iowa Posts: 526	Re: Fumaze Rip-- I think that the answer to your question is, yes. I think that if the tube extends below enough to be in the slip stream that there would be a slightly lower pressure generated which would help evacuate the crank case. Please don't take my answer as gospel as I do not claim to be a guru here as many are. I was just surprised that you did not get an answer. __________________ Steve Hanna, Polk City, IA

02-15-2016, 10:58 PM	#30
Tom Wesenberg Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Mpls, MN Posts: 27,582	Re: Fumaze My engine came with a flex tube oil filler cap, and it does a good job of evacuating the oil fumes. It also keeps the left side of the engine from getting oily.

02-15-2016, 11:05 PM	#31
CarlG Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Anchorage, Alaska Posts: 9,115	Re: Fumaze Sold ! $155.50 __________________ Alaskan A's Antique Auto Mushers of Alaska Model A Ford Club of America Model A Restorers Club Antique Automobile Club of America Mullins Owner's Club Last edited by CarlG; 02-16-2016 at 11:06 AM.

02-15-2016, 11:58 PM	#32
silversink Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Dayton Oregon Posts: 318	Re: Fumaze how do these work with the eng. pans __________________ Hotrods don't have valve covers

02-16-2016, 10:46 AM	#34
sphanna Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Polk City, Iowa Posts: 526	Re: Fumaze I have the flex tube type. That is why I was not wanting to sound too dogmatic with my previous post. The flex tube definately creates a low pressure at the outlet in the slip stream. Works well with engine pans installed. Bernoulli principle. __________________ Steve Hanna, Polk City, IA

02-16-2016, 03:20 PM	#35
BILL WILLIAMSON Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: FRESNO, CA Posts: 12,560	Re: Fumaze Where in the world do some folks get enough MONEY to waste on frivolous goodies??? I'm always near broke! P.M. me for my mailing address. Bill Bent __________________ "THE ASSISTANT GURU OF STUFF"

02-16-2016, 06:36 PM	#37
harleytoprock Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2014 Posts: 438	Re: Fumaze Bill, I would send you some money but I'm so poor I can't pay attention.

02-16-2016, 07:57 PM	#39
duke36 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Posts: 1,414	Re: Fumaze good question about the engine pans; I added a piece of prebent black radiator rubber hose to the bottom of the Fumaze and extended it out and down the pan to direct the fumes, if any under the car. I wonder if the high compression head ( came on my engine) changes the breathing some which appears to be a little bit "more" than I'm used to. I'm now trying a '32 style larger pipe and cap and see how that performs.

02-16-2016, 09:23 PM	#40
BILL WILLIAMSON Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: FRESNO, CA Posts: 12,560	Re: Fumaze Vermin has a flip top filler, but the flexible tube is missing. I'll use a piece of flexible electrical conduit. (CHEEP!) A friend had one, his blow by was SO bad, he extended the tube to the BACK of the truck! BUT, he ran the truck from here to Canada & back! AMAZING! Bill W. __________________ "THE ASSISTANT GURU OF STUFF"