Daily Production Numbers

[Dennis Haag]

A question I have deals with production numbers. I have read that the numbers stamped into the body are daily production numbers. For example my 1931 Briggs Town sedan has the number CHI 9358. The numbers 9358 seem like a high daily production. My thought is could it be the 9358 Briggs town sedan assembled in Chicago. Everyone I have talked with so far said daily production. thanks

[Steve Plucker]

They are not daily production numbers for sure.

During 1931, and according to Ford's Assembly Record Types, there were only 3569 Town Sedans that were assembled at the Chicago plant for that year.

Pluck

[Dennis Haag]

Thank you Steve. My next thought it may be a Briggs production number and the CHI added during assembly. The CHI letters are not as uniform as 9358 numbers. Thanks again for the information. Just a note my town sedan was probly assembled Nov or Dec 1930.

[Bob Johnson]

That is the assembly plant number. I believe that it represents 9358th town sedan produced at the Chicago plant in 1931.

[jm29henry]

I would love to know daily assembly .I own a 1929 phaeton the gas tanks is dated [2-3-29] so that the day I assume it was made the motor #is 924447 the interesting thing to me is that the ONE MILLIONTH FORD MODEL A was built on February 4th 1929 would mean that using the total from all plant that they made over 75,000 car in one day this is only my thought please add if you can prove or no if this thinking is real thanks for your thoughts

[Tom Wesenberg]

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Originally Posted by jm29henry

I would love to know daily assembly .I own a 1929 phaeton the gas tanks is dated [2-3-29] so that the day I assume it was made the motor #is 924447 the interesting thing to me is that the ONE MILLIONTH FORD MODEL A was built on February 4th 1929 would mean that using the total from all plant that they made over 75,000 car in one day this is only my thought please add if you can prove or no if this thinking is real thanks for your thoughts

The engine were ALL built in Detroit and numbered there also, then shipped to the various assembly plants where a body number was stamped along with the plant code prefix as the car was assembled.

My 2-23-29 Tudor has a body number TC17509
My 9-27-28 Pheaton has a body number TC476

So you can see even though my Phaeton was built fairly late in the year, not many people wanted an open car in such a cold state.

[Dennis Haag]

Originally Posted by Tom Wesenberg

The engine were ALL built in Detroit and numbered there also, then shipped to the various assembly plants where a body number was stamped along with the plant code prefix as the car was assembled.

My 2-23-29 Tudor has a body number TC17509
My 9-27-28 Pheaton has a body number TC476

So you can see even though my Phaeton was built fairly late in the year, not many people wanted an open car in such a cold state.

Tom, does this mean your Tudor was the 17509 Tudor assembled at Twin Cities and your Pheaton was 467 from the start of production.

[Dennis Haag]

Originally Posted by Tom Wesenberg

The engine were ALL built in Detroit and numbered there also, then shipped to the various assembly plants where a body number was stamped along with the plant code prefix as the car was assembled.

My 2-23-29 Tudor has a body number TC17509
My 9-27-28 Pheaton has a body number TC476

So you can see even though my Phaeton was built fairly late in the year, not many people wanted an open car in such a cold state.

It was my understanding there were more open cars sold in Wisconsin and Minn. because it was least expensive. I remember my Grandparents and Uncles all had open cars on the farm.

[Tom Wesenberg]

Originally Posted by Dennis Haag

Tom, does this mean your Tudor was the 17509 Tudor assembled at Twin Cities and your Pheaton was 467 from the start of production.

That's my understanding, and by looking at the gas tank dates, engine numbers, and body numbers, it makes sense that it is the number of that body style assembled since the begining of Model A production at that plant.

[jm29henry]

thanks Tom I have a lot to learn that's why we right these post or reply so that we can all learn !!!!!!

[Marco Tahtaras]

Originally Posted by Tom Wesenberg

That's my understanding, and by looking at the gas tank dates, engine numbers, and body numbers, it makes sense that it is the number of that body style assembled since the begining of Model A production at that plant.

Keep in mind that every branch sold some of nearly every model. However it's very unlikely (almost impossible) that every branch produced every body type. This means that some bodies must have come from another branch. The question becomes, was the body number stamped by the branch that assembled the car or was it stamped by the branch that built the body? I'm betting it was the latter.

[Tom Wesenberg]

Originally Posted by Marco Tahtaras

Keep in mind that every branch sold some of nearly every model. However it's very unlikely (almost impossible) that every branch produced every body type. This means that some bodies must have come from another branch. The question becomes, was the body number stamped by the branch that assembled the car or was it stamped by the branch that built the body? I'm betting it was the latter.

The body number on my 9-27-28 Phaeton is partly under the front edge of the seat riser, so the number definately was stamped before the body was completely assembled, since the riser is spot welded.

[Dennis Haag]

Added picture of body stamp numbers 1931 Briggs CHI 9358 Thank you for all the information Dennis

[Marco Tahtaras]

Originally Posted by Dennis Haag

Added picture of body stamp numbers 1931 Briggs CHI 9358 Thank you for all the information Dennis

Did you find a Briggs tag anywhere on the body?

[Dennis Haag]

Originally Posted by Marco Tahtaras

Did you find a Briggs tag anywhere on the body?

Marco, I did not find a tag. I looked for nail holes under the front seat , found nothing to indicate a tag. I did restore the car in the late 70's. Motor and frame numbers match. Dennis

[Charles Reese]

I don't know which bodies the San Fran plant actually produced on site. Given the discussion, would my "SF52" represent:

*52nd open cab produced in ____ and then shipped to SF for assembly?

*52nd open cab pickup assembled in SF? (this would suggest there may also be a SF52 Tudor, roadster, etc)

*52nd vehicle ever assembled in SF? (this would suggest there is only ONE SF52 produced)

*52nd vehicle assembled in SF, on a given day?


my stamping is clear of the seat riser so could have been stamped at any point.