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02-17-2014, 11:05 AM | #21 |
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Re: English Ford Model Y
One of the challenges of driving a stock one is a) lack of power and b) ridiculously low gearing (5.44:1). You can put a 103E engine in with only minor modifications and jump the horsepower up considerably. There are even many aftermarket bits to get a 103E to put out around 60HP or so...which is actually a pretty strong engine for such a tiny car.
If you're willing to go open drive, you can then use a 105 tranny and there were even bolt-on overdrives with their own lever (all mechanical - almost making it a 6-speed). The back axle in this case is most easily made out of the mix-n-match 103/105 stuff I mentioned earlier. When I was looking into this as a temporary measure until I could fully engineer a V860 swap, I discovered that the little Jeep Go-Devil 134 engine would probably fit right in there too. It came with 60HP stock and could probably be mildly modified with standard porting, milling heads, open exhaust, intake and electronic ignition to put out around 80HP I'd guess. There was at least one aftermarket head for it too - very rare and I've only ever seen one on eBay. Now you've got an engine that has a plethora of adapters for various transmissions to bolt up to. Puts out a healthy-enough HP number for such a small car. Is small and light enough to fit into the Y without over-burdening it. You're still stuck for a back axle though....
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Speedway engineering in LA has a small quickchange that they will make what ever width you want , that will give you the bolt pattern you want also & rear discs & the features of a Q/C rear axle.
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02-17-2014, 07:15 PM | #23 |
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Ern, Suzuki jeep axle. Same pcd. Not too wide. I'm talking the little SJ type. Come in a few ratios, 5.13:1 4 something:1 and 3.9:1. I think. As for open drive original axle, use 100E stuff. This is the same design as the Pop (Anglia) and back to Model Y. This would give 100E ratio 4.429:1. Easy way to do it would be fuzzing some Model Y spring mounts on it and stick it in. You'd have to figure out brakes n stuff. But it's a reasonable place to start.
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02-17-2014, 07:51 PM | #24 |
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Might be worth looking into some furrincar independent rear for something this small. As with any really light car, almost anything normally used in hot rods is going to give a terrible problem with unsprung weight. Even if I contribute my magnesium banjo!
An open axle midget setup might be as light as you could reasonably get with a live axle. E83...Looong ago, the Hot Rod magazine tech column did a short piece on the various obscure Ford England components out there in the world, mostly about those ultra-shorts because they could be used to assemble a dragster rear! |
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http://www.1speedway.com/Rear_End_Measurement_Page.htm
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11-13-2016, 10:59 PM | #27 |
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I saw one a few months back that had a v8 60 just dropped in it ,it was a un finished project , see if I can get a photo .Ted .
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11-13-2016, 11:50 PM | #28 |
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If you can, see what they did with the steering. I did some tape-measure engineering on mine - the steering column would come out right smack in the middle of the right head/block area...
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Of course, if you're not interested in the more traditional flat-head 4-cyl of some variety or another, or a V860 is too much to work with regards to steering and suspension, the Fiat Twin Cam is always an option!
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Re: English Ford Model Y
would a cowl steering setup work?
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Tony I live right down the road from you, so if you need any help, stop in.
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If someone needs one of theese little flathead 4cyls i have one in the storage...supposed to be rebuilt for a boat...any descent offer brings it home !!
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Perhaps...if you went fenderless...and I don't care for the look of cowl steering on anything but race cars or race-inspired cars.
I think one of those offset chain re-drives might work...
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I think he had the steering box removed you could consider the stock box with a two U joint to go under ,rotate the box anty clock wise HHmmmm . the boxes are most likely ,?? actually the casting can brake , Ted
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11-14-2016, 11:12 PM | #35 |
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A friend has a German Y car, LH drive. He put a V8 60 in it. By all means use a crab
distributor, with some ingenuity it can be made to work WITHOUT an adapter....every inch matters in this swap. He used the 60 trans and rear end.....shortening the torque tube and drive shaft and narrowing the track. '40 rear brakes and front discs and a R&P from a rice burner. A lot of trouble with the stock steering box.....it was weak to begin with and the exhaust heat caused it to bind up. It look so docile until he started it up, a pair of steel packs....yikes. Charlie ny |
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Charlie,
That sounds like a damn cool little car! Martin. |
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If anyone has a RHD steering box for the Model y they want to part with I will purchase from you. I need one for my 35 Model Y. I'm located in upstate New York. Here in the US it's hard to find one. Does anyone know what would be a good box to swap out the Model Y box with in the event I cannot get an original Y box? I thought possibly the Anglia 105E RHD box but it is 10" shorter than the Y box and column assembly. I suppose I could get it to work if I had to.
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I may have one , will try to look later but it may be next weekend before I can check.
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Wow that would be great!!! Maybe there is a light at the end of the tunnel!!! Please let me know when you check on it. Thanks
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