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JT1930 · 02-24-2019, 08:55 PM

Hi all, new to this forum and looking for an answer. I was going to post in the HAMB but figured I could get a more specific answer here.

I have a f150 trans with the 26% overdrive in it but was wondering should I stick with that or put a ‘39 ford top loader in the coupe instead. Still has the 4 banger in the car. Will the ‘39 trans be better than the stock “A” trans other than the fact it has synchros in it. Would I get more top speed out of it over the “A” trans ? Thanks, Joe

daveymc29 · 02-24-2019, 09:15 PM

Top speed is still 1:1 with the 39. Just has the advantage of syncro 2nd and 3rd. F150 has the OD but may require more work to install. I like the 39 with a 26% Mitchell, or better yet the Mitchell tranny and Mitchell O/D. Love that combo in my roadster. No modification to frame or body and can go back to stock with no sign of alteration if you keep your old floorboards and create new ones for the O/D or get the cable shifter.

JT1930 · 02-24-2019, 10:21 PM

Thanks. Dang. The mitchel stuff sounds great but an extra lever for od and the cost of around 5k not worth it in my eyes. Looks like I’ll be sticking with the f150 trans and getting the Mac’s speed shop bellhousing and parts. I’m long gone from going back to stock since it’s hotrodded now

Charlie Stephens · 02-24-2019, 11:18 PM

The decision depends a lot on how you are going to drive it. I don't drive a lot and would just keep the original transmission. A little time and you can learn to double clutch the non synchro trans. Definitely a lot less costly. My second choice would be the '39 trans using one of the adapter kits. If I was going through the rear end it would get 3.54 gears to increase the top speed.

Charlie Stephens

CarlG · 02-25-2019, 12:07 AM

The F150 gets my vote. I have about 20K miles on mine now and wouldn’t do it any other way.

JT1930 · 02-25-2019, 07:31 AM

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I drive it as much as I can and long distances to shows. This is not a bone stock car and hate the straight gear trans. With a 650 tire out back I hit 60mph tops. Looking to get those few extra mph’s to sit in the slow lane on a highway.

Carl that’s what I’m thinking. Thanks.

kenparker · 02-25-2019, 08:01 AM

with the f150 are you using the torque tube or going to an open drive line.?

jquinlan · 02-25-2019, 08:42 AM

The truck I bought last year just so happened to have an F150 transmission in it. I love driving it. The guy I bought this truck from drove it from Reno to Alaska and from the west coast of the United States to the East coast and back. Between that transmission and the 6:1 head it's quite the driver.

JT1930 · 02-25-2019, 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by kenparker

with the f150 are you using the torque tube or going to an open drive line.?

Torque tube. I’ll have to cut that and the rear radius arms shorter to accommodate the longer transmission

JT1930 · 02-25-2019, 08:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jquinlan

The truck I bought last year just so happened to have an F150 transmission in it. I love driving it. The guy I bought this truck from drove it from Reno to Alaska and from the west coast of the United States to the East coast and back. Between that transmission and the 6:1 head it's quite the driver.

That’s awesome.

Railcarmover · 02-25-2019, 09:26 AM

The higher the compression the quicker the stock trans shifts,the mitchell od is a 'gear splitter' and is syncho so mated with a stock trans you get some synchro shifts.Flywheel housing alignment is crucial to smooth stock trans shifting as well..

daveymc29 · 02-25-2019, 10:33 AM

With the cable shifter on the Mitchell Overdrive there is no extra lever on the floor. It can be mounted onto the transmission shift lever like the big trucks, Push down it is in over drive, pull up it is out. Real easy to split gears for the hills and onramps.

JT1930 · 02-25-2019, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by daveymc29

With the cable shifter on the Mitchell Overdrive there is no extra lever on the floor. It can be mounted onto the transmission shift lever like the big trucks, Push down it is in over drive, pull up it is out. Real easy to split gears for the hills and onramps.

I understand now. But the price still stands. $2800ish. That’s a lot vs doing a f150 swap. If you wanted to leave the car stock appearing and be able to put it back to stock then yes it’s great.

Bob C · 02-25-2019, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by JT1930

I understand now. But the price still stands. $2800ish. That’s a lot vs doing a f150 swap. If you wanted to leave the car stock appearing and be able to put it back to stock then yes it’s great.

The F150 swap is not a simple bolt in swap. Read through the whole
thread in the link especially posts 20, 63, and 66. https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/showt...ht=dave+delume

Bob

Russ/40 · 02-25-2019, 11:50 AM

The total cost for me was lowest with the '39 transmission. I already had the 39 box, so it was just the cost of the Clings kit. The kit is a very sanitary setup, well engineered and less than $500. As I have a rdstr PU, I was not looking for any more top end, as I'm not even running a top. No messing with the torque tube, and no modifications to the chassis.

Railcarmover · 02-25-2019, 12:03 PM

Doing the f150 conversion holds two options,open or closed driveshaft.Open includes altering the rear suspension,closed includes costs for adapters.Often folks just put heim joints on the radius rods and weld them to the frame,changing the suspension geometry and transferring load to the frame rail which isnt designed for it.Not to mention the torque tube is a critical part of stabilizing the rear axle.

JT1930 · 02-25-2019, 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob C

The F150 swap is not a simple bolt in swap. Read through the whole
thread in the link especially posts 20, 63, and 66. https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/showt...ht=dave+delume

Bob

Obviously. I wouldn’t say it’s very challenging either, maybe for some but buying the Mac’s bellhousing and rear of trans plate it helps. I just have to cut my rear shaft and spline it on my bridge port by indexing it. Cut the torque tube/driveshaft and arms also.

JT1930 · 02-25-2019, 12:13 PM

Railcarmover. I will be keeping the torque tube. I’ve seen what someone has done with a hiem joint torque arm type of setup and open drive line. Seems like more work vs keeping the torque tube.

JT1930 · 02-25-2019, 12:23 PM

JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR.......

- I know what it takes to put a f150 transmission into a model A. I know many are helping with information on putting the trans in the car and I thank you but it is not needed. Original post was asking does the 39 trans have a better gearing ratio to go faster over the A trans. Thank you.

I know everyone is trying to put input on how to f150 trans or 39 trans into a model A but i don’t understand how many can just disregard the original posts question and start stating other information and snowballs from there.

Jim Brierley · 02-25-2019, 01:04 PM

The '39 does not have overdrive, its advantage over the stock A is syncro on 2nd and 3rd and better gear ratio-split. Top speed will not be much different as you don't have enough power with a stock engine to take advantage of the O.D. but cruising with the F-150 will be easier and more comfortable, with the V8 cruising at 60 would be straining the engine ... not good. Cruising speed with a V8 would be 45-50.

AL in NY · 02-25-2019, 04:51 PM

JT1930; I did the F150 in my CCPU myself. Looks like you know what it takes to do the machining, so that makes the F150 a better choice then the 39 trans because of the OD. Go with the F150 and you won't be sorry. Cost for that conversion when you DIY is very reasonable. Good luck..

JT1930 · 02-25-2019, 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AL in NY

JT1930; I did the F150 in my CCPU myself. Looks like you know what it takes to do the machining, so that makes the F150 a better choice then the 39 trans because of the OD. Go with the F150 and you won't be sorry. Cost for that conversion when you DIY is very reasonable. Good luck..

Thanks Al ! I was going to use a model AA bellhousing but didn’t feel like fabbing up the shaft for the pedals. Getting the cast bellhousing from macs speed shop with the throw out bearing kit and the rear plate to mount the ujoint clam shell. That should get me going fairly quick.

AL in NY · 02-25-2019, 06:54 PM

Does Mac's offer any guidance as to how much the shorten the driveshaft, radius rods and torque tube when using their bell housing and adapter plate? The reason for the question is I have a friend in our Model A club that's been thinking about doing the F150 conversion. I said I would fabricate the rear adapter plate for him. Mac's plate would be a much easier build.

JT1930 · 02-25-2019, 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AL in NY

Does Mac's offer any guidance as to how much the shorten the driveshaft, radius rods and torque tube when using their bell housing and adapter plate? The reason for the question is I have a friend in our Model A club that's been thinking about doing the F150 conversion. I said I would fabricate the rear adapter plate for him. Mac's plate would be a much easier build.

Not sure. But I’ll be finding out soon. I know it is a 5/8” plate that bolts directly to the rear of the trans and then you directly bolt the clam to it. When I get it set up I’ll shoot you some measurements of what I’ve got.

Chris Haynes · 02-26-2019, 07:45 PM

This from Dave about his transmissions,

Complete bolt in kit, no cutting of your car, rebuilt transmission,u joint ,t.o. bearing. Chrome shift lever, clutch disc, bell housing petal and emg brake mounts, gaskets , driveshaft. Torque tube, radius rods, (these have been shortened and are exchange items) $3800.00+ shipping . thanks

Synchro909 · 02-26-2019, 09:21 PM

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I'd love to have a car with the F150 coghouse but they are not available here - to say nothging of a kit to fit them. Even if I were to be able to get ahold of one over there, I couldn't fit it. The kits you are talking about were poorly thought out. It would have taken VERY little more to have made them work RHD as well.
All that said, I have a car with the Mitchell O/D and their synchro gearbox. I use a cable shifter on it as Daveymac29 mentioned. I figure that is about as close to a T5 as I will ever get. My other As have the standerd gearbox and the Mitchell O/D. A standard driveline is too slow these days, IMO.

JT1930 · 02-27-2019, 09:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Haynes

This from Dave about his transmissions,

Complete bolt in kit, no cutting of your car, rebuilt transmission,u joint ,t.o. bearing. Chrome shift lever, clutch disc, bell housing petal and emg brake mounts, gaskets , driveshaft. Torque tube, radius rods, (these have been shortened and are exchange items) $3800.00+ shipping . thanks

You sold me at the chrome shifter..... 3800 bucks is nice for someone who wants to plug n play on their car. I like to fab and do it cheaper and then have an appreciation of what I’ve done. But that’s just me.

CarlG · 02-27-2019, 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JT1930

You sold me at the chrome shifter..... 3800 bucks is nice for someone who wants to plug n play on their car. I like to fab and do it cheaper and then have an appreciation of what I’ve done. But that’s just me.

Some of us have those skills. Those of us who don't pay the piper!

wensum · 02-27-2019, 10:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Synchro909

I'd love to have a car with the F150 coghouse but they are not available here - to say nothging of a kit to fit them. Even if I were to be able to get ahold of one over there, I couldn't fit it. The kits you are talking about were poorly thought out. It would have taken VERY little more to have made them work RHD as well.
All that said, I have a car with the Mitchell O/D and their synchro gearbox. I use a cable shifter on it as Daveymac29 mentioned. I figure that is about as close to a T5 as I will ever get. My other As have the standerd gearbox and the Mitchell O/D. A standard driveline is too slow these days, IMO.

The MACs bellhousing makes the conversion relatively simple with the original pedals mounted left or right sides and the hand brake simply mounted as per the attached photograph. I have opted for an open prop shaft, but I believe that MACs has a conversion kit for the torque tube. The clutch is the one minor hiccup and once again MACs can supply a suitable unit, or a clutch from a turbo charged 4 cylinder Mustang will do (not the current model)

Pete · 02-27-2019, 11:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JT1930

JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR.......

- I know what it takes to put a f150 transmission into a model A. I know many are helping with information on putting the trans in the car and I thank you but it is not needed. Original post was asking does the 39 trans have a better gearing ratio to go faster over the A trans. Thank you.

I know everyone is trying to put input on how to f150 trans or 39 trans into a model A but i don’t understand how many can just disregard the original posts question and start stating other information and snowballs from there.

It is called "thread hi-jacking". Quite common on this forum.

To answer your question, the f150 will go faster because of the overdrive, IF,
you have enough horsepower to pull the higher gear. (4th)

There is one thing you should know that has NOT been mentioned and that is the gear ratios in the f150 are very poor. Much worse than the stock A transmission. BIG rpm drop between 2nd and 3rd. Super annoying if you drive in hill country much.

AL in NY · 02-28-2019, 10:24 AM

Pete there is not much difference between the F150 trans ratios and the Model A 3 speed.
F150 Model A
3.25 3.12
1.92 1.85
1.00 1.00
.78

Synchro909 · 02-28-2019, 06:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wensum

The MACs bellhousing makes the conversion relatively simple with the original pedals mounted left or right sides and the hand brake simply mounted as per the attached photograph. I have opted for an open prop shaft, but I believe that MACs has a conversion kit for the torque tube. The clutch is the one minor hiccup and once again MACs can supply a suitable unit, or a clutch from a turbo charged 4 cylinder Mustang will do (not the current model)

Thanks for that, Wensum but what is that crossmember? I'm not interested in cutting or replacing the crossmember. There are too many legal/engineering problems in getting it approved and on the road.
I noticed also that you moved the accerator pedal over to the right.

Juggler · 03-01-2019, 07:25 AM

Another alternative is a close ratio gear set in the original transmission

Belchers in the UK offer two sets:-

18T/29T

1st = 2.592 - 1

2nd = 1.543 - 1

Top 1-1

Total ratio 1.61-1

 or

20T/27T

1st = 2.173-1

2nd = 1.293-1

Top 1-1

Total ratio 2.609-1

Price is £785 which is just over $1k right now, plus shipping etc

Solves the problem of the big jump between 2nd and top. No synchro or o/d but no cutting or altered appearance. Price is enough, but got to be cheaper than an adapter and a good used/rebuilt 39 or F150 trans. I don't have a set (yet) but have passengered in a car with them fitted and it makes a hell of a difference to drivability. All positive feedback so far as I am aware.

JT1930 · 03-01-2019, 12:39 PM

Wensum looking good. I bet with the torque tube adapter it would be minimal if any cutting of the cross member but for me I don’t care. This car is not a stocker.

Also the stock A trans and f150 trans are very close like stated above. With having a Winfield 6.1 head and other mods it should power through the gears fine.

02-24-2019, 08:55 PM	#1
JT1930 Member Join Date: Feb 2019 Location: Glocester, Rhode Island Posts: 81	F150 trans or 39 Ford trans for banger? Hi all, new to this forum and looking for an answer. I was going to post in the HAMB but figured I could get a more specific answer here. I have a f150 trans with the 26% overdrive in it but was wondering should I stick with that or put a ‘39 ford top loader in the coupe instead. Still has the 4 banger in the car. Will the ‘39 trans be better than the stock “A” trans other than the fact it has synchros in it. Would I get more top speed out of it over the “A” trans ? Thanks, Joe

02-24-2019, 09:15 PM	#2
daveymc29 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Danville, CA Posts: 1,554	Re: F150 trans or 39 Ford trans for banger? Top speed is still 1:1 with the 39. Just has the advantage of syncro 2nd and 3rd. F150 has the OD but may require more work to install. I like the 39 with a 26% Mitchell, or better yet the Mitchell tranny and Mitchell O/D. Love that combo in my roadster. No modification to frame or body and can go back to stock with no sign of alteration if you keep your old floorboards and create new ones for the O/D or get the cable shifter.

02-24-2019, 10:21 PM	#3
JT1930 Member Join Date: Feb 2019 Location: Glocester, Rhode Island Posts: 81	Re: F150 trans or 39 Ford trans for banger? Thanks. Dang. The mitchel stuff sounds great but an extra lever for od and the cost of around 5k not worth it in my eyes. Looks like I’ll be sticking with the f150 trans and getting the Mac’s speed shop bellhousing and parts. I’m long gone from going back to stock since it’s hotrodded now

02-24-2019, 11:18 PM	#4
Charlie Stephens Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Southern California Posts: 7,033	Re: F150 trans or 39 Ford trans for banger? The decision depends a lot on how you are going to drive it. I don't drive a lot and would just keep the original transmission. A little time and you can learn to double clutch the non synchro trans. Definitely a lot less costly. My second choice would be the '39 trans using one of the adapter kits. If I was going through the rear end it would get 3.54 gears to increase the top speed. Charlie Stephens

02-25-2019, 12:07 AM	#5
CarlG Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Anchorage, Alaska Posts: 9,115	Re: F150 trans or 39 Ford trans for banger? The F150 gets my vote. I have about 20K miles on mine now and wouldn’t do it any other way. __________________ Alaskan A's Antique Auto Mushers of Alaska Model A Ford Club of America Model A Restorers Club Antique Automobile Club of America Mullins Owner's Club

02-25-2019, 07:31 AM	#6
JT1930 Member Join Date: Feb 2019 Location: Glocester, Rhode Island Posts: 81	Re: F150 trans or 39 Ford trans for banger? Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) I drive it as much as I can and long distances to shows. This is not a bone stock car and hate the straight gear trans. With a 650 tire out back I hit 60mph tops. Looking to get those few extra mph’s to sit in the slow lane on a highway. Carl that’s what I’m thinking. Thanks.

02-25-2019, 08:01 AM	#7
kenparker Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Van, Texas Posts: 1,122	Re: F150 trans or 39 Ford trans for banger? with the f150 are you using the torque tube or going to an open drive line.?

02-25-2019, 08:42 AM	#8
jquinlan Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2018 Location: Foley, Al Posts: 142	Re: F150 trans or 39 Ford trans for banger? The truck I bought last year just so happened to have an F150 transmission in it. I love driving it. The guy I bought this truck from drove it from Reno to Alaska and from the west coast of the United States to the East coast and back. Between that transmission and the 6:1 head it's quite the driver. __________________ Jim

02-25-2019, 09:26 AM	#11
Railcarmover BANNED Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: Sacramento Posts: 1,262	Re: F150 trans or 39 Ford trans for banger? The higher the compression the quicker the stock trans shifts,the mitchell od is a 'gear splitter' and is syncho so mated with a stock trans you get some synchro shifts.Flywheel housing alignment is crucial to smooth stock trans shifting as well..

02-25-2019, 10:33 AM	#12
daveymc29 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Danville, CA Posts: 1,554	Re: F150 trans or 39 Ford trans for banger? With the cable shifter on the Mitchell Overdrive there is no extra lever on the floor. It can be mounted onto the transmission shift lever like the big trucks, Push down it is in over drive, pull up it is out. Real easy to split gears for the hills and onramps.

02-25-2019, 11:50 AM	#15
Russ/40 Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Santee, California Posts: 3,505	Re: F150 trans or 39 Ford trans for banger? The total cost for me was lowest with the '39 transmission. I already had the 39 box, so it was just the cost of the Clings kit. The kit is a very sanitary setup, well engineered and less than $500. As I have a rdstr PU, I was not looking for any more top end, as I'm not even running a top. No messing with the torque tube, and no modifications to the chassis.

02-25-2019, 12:03 PM	#16
Railcarmover BANNED Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: Sacramento Posts: 1,262	Re: F150 trans or 39 Ford trans for banger? Doing the f150 conversion holds two options,open or closed driveshaft.Open includes altering the rear suspension,closed includes costs for adapters.Often folks just put heim joints on the radius rods and weld them to the frame,changing the suspension geometry and transferring load to the frame rail which isnt designed for it.Not to mention the torque tube is a critical part of stabilizing the rear axle.

02-25-2019, 12:13 PM	#18
JT1930 Member Join Date: Feb 2019 Location: Glocester, Rhode Island Posts: 81	Re: F150 trans or 39 Ford trans for banger? Railcarmover. I will be keeping the torque tube. I’ve seen what someone has done with a hiem joint torque arm type of setup and open drive line. Seems like more work vs keeping the torque tube.

02-25-2019, 12:23 PM	#19
JT1930 Member Join Date: Feb 2019 Location: Glocester, Rhode Island Posts: 81	Re: F150 trans or 39 Ford trans for banger? JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR....... - I know what it takes to put a f150 transmission into a model A. I know many are helping with information on putting the trans in the car and I thank you but it is not needed. Original post was asking does the 39 trans have a better gearing ratio to go faster over the A trans. Thank you. I know everyone is trying to put input on how to f150 trans or 39 trans into a model A but i don’t understand how many can just disregard the original posts question and start stating other information and snowballs from there.

02-25-2019, 01:04 PM	#20
Jim Brierley Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Temecula, CA Posts: 4,089	Re: F150 trans or 39 Ford trans for banger? The '39 does not have overdrive, its advantage over the stock A is syncro on 2nd and 3rd and better gear ratio-split. Top speed will not be much different as you don't have enough power with a stock engine to take advantage of the O.D. but cruising with the F-150 will be easier and more comfortable, with the V8 cruising at 60 would be straining the engine ... not good. Cruising speed with a V8 would be 45-50.

02-25-2019, 04:51 PM	#21
AL in NY Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Southern Upstate New York Posts: 1,160	Re: F150 trans or 39 Ford trans for banger? JT1930; I did the F150 in my CCPU myself. Looks like you know what it takes to do the machining, so that makes the F150 a better choice then the 39 trans because of the OD. Go with the F150 and you won't be sorry. Cost for that conversion when you DIY is very reasonable. Good luck.. __________________ AL in NY

02-25-2019, 06:54 PM	#23
AL in NY Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Southern Upstate New York Posts: 1,160	Re: F150 trans or 39 Ford trans for banger? Does Mac's offer any guidance as to how much the shorten the driveshaft, radius rods and torque tube when using their bell housing and adapter plate? The reason for the question is I have a friend in our Model A club that's been thinking about doing the F150 conversion. I said I would fabricate the rear adapter plate for him. Mac's plate would be a much easier build. __________________ AL in NY

02-26-2019, 07:45 PM	#25
Chris Haynes Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Camarillo, CA and Pine Grove, CA Posts: 2,832	Re: F150 trans or 39 Ford trans for banger? This from Dave about his transmissions, Complete bolt in kit, no cutting of your car, rebuilt transmission,u joint ,t.o. bearing. Chrome shift lever, clutch disc, bell housing petal and emg brake mounts, gaskets , driveshaft. Torque tube, radius rods, (these have been shortened and are exchange items) $3800.00+ shipping . thanks __________________ 1921 Runabout 1930 Tudor Early 1930 AA Speed costs money. How fast do you want to go?

02-26-2019, 09:21 PM	#26
Synchro909 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 7,496	Re: F150 trans or 39 Ford trans for banger? Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) I'd love to have a car with the F150 coghouse but they are not available here - to say nothging of a kit to fit them. Even if I were to be able to get ahold of one over there, I couldn't fit it. The kits you are talking about were poorly thought out. It would have taken VERY little more to have made them work RHD as well. All that said, I have a car with the Mitchell O/D and their synchro gearbox. I use a cable shifter on it as Daveymac29 mentioned. I figure that is about as close to a T5 as I will ever get. My other As have the standerd gearbox and the Mitchell O/D. A standard driveline is too slow these days, IMO. __________________ I'm part of the only ever generation with an analogue childhood and a digital adulthood.

02-28-2019, 10:24 AM	#31
AL in NY Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Southern Upstate New York Posts: 1,160	Re: F150 trans or 39 Ford trans for banger? Pete there is not much difference between the F150 trans ratios and the Model A 3 speed. F150 Model A 3.25 3.12 1.92 1.85 1.00 1.00 .78 __________________ AL in NY

03-01-2019, 07:25 AM	#33
Juggler Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Phoenix AZ/Bath UK Posts: 481	Re: F150 trans or 39 Ford trans for banger? Another alternative is a close ratio gear set in the original transmission Belchers in the UK offer two sets:- 18T/29T 1st = 2.592 - 1 2nd = 1.543 - 1 Top 1-1 Total ratio 1.61-1  or 20T/27T 1st = 2.173-1 2nd = 1.293-1 Top 1-1 Total ratio 2.609-1 Price is £785 which is just over $1k right now, plus shipping etc Solves the problem of the big jump between 2nd and top. No synchro or o/d but no cutting or altered appearance. Price is enough, but got to be cheaper than an adapter and a good used/rebuilt 39 or F150 trans. I don't have a set (yet) but have passengered in a car with them fitted and it makes a hell of a difference to drivability. All positive feedback so far as I am aware.

03-01-2019, 12:39 PM	#34
JT1930 Member Join Date: Feb 2019 Location: Glocester, Rhode Island Posts: 81	Re: F150 trans or 39 Ford trans for banger? Wensum looking good. I bet with the torque tube adapter it would be minimal if any cutting of the cross member but for me I don’t care. This car is not a stocker. Also the stock A trans and f150 trans are very close like stated above. With having a Winfield 6.1 head and other mods it should power through the gears fine.