The Ford Barn

dmsfrr · 02-24-2018, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by KULTULZ

Hey dmsfrr-
I imagine you frequent BIRD only forums a lot. Have you noticed any other 55/57 BIRD failures/complaints such as this?

The problems that seem to come up most often...
running too hot, ignition and carburation/fuel delivery.

KULTULZ · 02-24-2018, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by dmsfrr

The problems that seem to come up most often...

running too hot, ignition and carburation/fuel delivery.

...hmmpf...

I thought it would be more of a common problem with just one fastener at the bottom of the rail.

Guess you just lucked out...

dmsfrr · 02-24-2018, 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by KULTULZ

Guess you just lucked out...

Sure, I feel very privileged. (haha)

It might have something to do with the car having a replacement oem frame.

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KULTULZ · 02-24-2018, 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by dmsfrr

Sure, I feel very privileged. (haha)

It might have something to do with the car having a replacement oem frame.

.

...mmm...

Forgot that little factoid...

Merc Cruzer · 02-25-2018, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by KULTULZ

I forgot to mention this, but there is a replacement fastener whereas you don't have to go into the rail itself-

Where can you find the "crush nut" fastener?

KULTULZ · 02-25-2018, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Merc Cruzer

Where can you find the "crush nut" fastener?

I've seen them listed on a couple of vendor sites.

I don't know if it is allowed to mention them here but if you want I can PM you a vendor.

Merc Cruzer · 02-25-2018, 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by KULTULZ

I've seen them listed on a couple of vendor sites.

I don't know if it is allowed to mention them here but if you want I can PM you a vendor.

Lultulz,

Yes PM me the vender.

Thank You,

KULTULZ · 02-26-2018, 05:11 AM

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Originally Posted by merc cruzer

lultulz,

yes pm me the vender.

Thank you,

pm sent!

Merc Cruzer · 02-26-2018, 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by KULTULZ

pm sent!

KULTULZ,

Received the PM with the sites, thank you. I installed the factory PS on my 53 Merc last year and could not for the life of me find the crush nuts. I had to improvise by taking a fender "J nut" and cutting of the bottom piece and then soldering it onto a coat hanger and then threading it threw a bolt hole in the frame and and down to the hole in the frame where the crush nut would go. Then I mounted the bracket with the other two bolts and then very carefully threaded the bolt up through the hole into the nut. It works fine but I always wanted to have the correct insert in the event I do it again. When I was looking all I found were Sert's and they are round, and from the feedback I got, they didn't hold all that well anyway. Thanks again.

Merc Cruzer

KULTULZ · 02-26-2018, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Merc Cruzer

KULTULZ,

Received the PM with the sites, thank you.

I installed the factory PS on my 53 Merc last year and could not for the life of me find the crush nuts. I had to improvise by taking a fender "J nut" and cutting of the bottom piece and then soldering it onto a coat hanger and then threading it threw a bolt hole in the frame and and down to the hole in the frame where the crush nut would go. Then I mounted the bracket with the other two bolts and then very carefully threaded the bolt up through the hole into the nut. It works fine but I always wanted to have the correct insert in the event I do it again.

When I was looking all I found were Sert's and they are round, and from the feedback I got, they didn't hold all that well anyway. Thanks again.

Merc Cruzer

They were discontinued by FORD some years back and were used in multiple applications,

If you ever need one again and are hard to find, just GOOGLE 375474-S8.

Here is a source for all kinds of retainers- https://www.amkproducts.com/Catalog_PDF/56-73.pdf

Jwawhite · 02-27-2018, 12:29 AM

Chevy Dealers have them in stock for Corvettes.

Merc Cruzer · 03-09-2018, 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Jwawhite

Chevy Dealers have them in stock for Corvettes.

I tried to find the nut locally, so I stopped in the local Chevy dealer, parts department, this afternoon and took them a picture of the "crush nut' and it was like living the add from Rock Auto. Bottom line, since I didn't have a Chevy part number, they had no way of looking it up. I tried their body repair department and again no luck....the manager at least knew what it was.

You wouldn't by chance have a part number, or a year of application?

Thank you,

Merc Cruzer

Jwawhite · 03-10-2018, 02:07 AM

https://www.amazon.com/GM-11561407-N.../dp/B0172HBF7A

Here ya go.

Merc Cruzer · 03-10-2018, 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Jwawhite

https://www.amazon.com/GM-11561407-N.../dp/B0172HBF7A

Here ya go.

Jwawhite and Kultulz,

Thank you for the information. I decided to go with NPD due to ease of ordering and shipping, and they had them in stock for Ford / Mercury application.

Merc Cruzer

Merc Cruzer · 03-20-2018, 07:35 PM

Finally got them installed...

KULTULZ · 03-20-2018, 07:40 PM

Looks awfully professional...

Merc Cruzer · 03-21-2018, 08:31 AM

The instructions tell you the nut, bolt and washer "tool" is only good for a couple of installations and they are not kidding. Just one more thing I learned to do that I probably will never do again. "All this knowledge and no where to use it"

KULTULZ · 03-22-2018, 04:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Merc Cruzer

The instructions tell you the nut, bolt and washer "tool" is only good for a couple of installations and they are not kidding.

Just one more thing I learned to do that I probably will never do again. "All this knowledge and no where to use it"

No, you may be able to help someone else down the line.

02-27-2018, 12:29 AM	#71
Jwawhite Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2016 Location: Now on the Land of Sun City West, AZ Posts: 405	Re: Power Steering Make Up 56 Wagon Chevy Dealers have them in stock for Corvettes.

03-10-2018, 02:07 AM	#73
Jwawhite Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2016 Location: Now on the Land of Sun City West, AZ Posts: 405	Re: Power Steering Make Up 56 Wagon https://www.amazon.com/GM-11561407-N.../dp/B0172HBF7A Here ya go.

03-20-2018, 07:40 PM	#76
KULTULZ Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: IN A 'GALAXIE' FAR FAR AWAY Posts: 6,475	Re: Power Steering Make Up 56 Wagon Looks awfully professional... __________________ *** - WHY IS IT ... - ... that everything you buy in the grocery store is either wrapped in or contained in plastic but the government doesn't want you to carry it out in a plastic bag? WONDERING IN W(BY GOD)V ... DIAGNOSED CDO** - (OCD In Correct Alphabetical Order)

03-21-2018, 08:31 AM	#77
Merc Cruzer Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Conifer, Colorado Posts: 2,429	Re: Power Steering Make Up 56 Wagon The instructions tell you the nut, bolt and washer "tool" is only good for a couple of installations and they are not kidding. Just one more thing I learned to do that I probably will never do again. "All this knowledge and no where to use it"