Go Back   The Ford Barn > General Discussion > Model A (1928-31)

Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements)

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 07-17-2017, 07:50 PM   #1
iverson
Senior Member
 
iverson's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: freeport il
Posts: 316
Default I tried corn head grease!

after reading all the posts about corn head grease I finnaly picked up a tube and filled the steering gear, same thread on grease gun took out a cover bolt and pumped until new grease came out hopefully this will stay in!
Attached Images
File Type: jpg IMG_2104.jpg (76.5 KB, 311 views)
iverson is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-17-2017, 07:55 PM   #2
Gary WA
Senior Member
 
Gary WA's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Clinton,WA/Whidbey Island
Posts: 4,105
Default Re: I tried corn head grease!

Keep us posted on your results!
__________________
www.whidbeymodelaclub.com
Gary WA is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements)
Old 07-17-2017, 08:04 PM   #3
Jeff/Illinois
Senior Member
 
Jeff/Illinois's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 2,789
Default Re: I tried corn head grease!

It worked real well for me, saw a very big improvement and haven't leaked anything out of the steering box since. Noticed the better steering right away.
Jeff/Illinois is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-18-2017, 07:00 AM   #4
WHN
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: Connecticut Shoreline
Posts: 1,824
Default Re: I tried corn head grease!

Try it in u joint to. If u joint has not been services in a long time, could take a lot of Cornhead grease.
WHN is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-18-2017, 07:21 AM   #5
Joe K
Senior Member
 
Joe K's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Cow Hampshire
Posts: 4,188
Default Re: I tried corn head grease!

Quote:
Originally Posted by WHN View Post
Try it in u joint to. If u joint has not been services in a long time, could take a lot of Cornhead grease.
That if you have the "ring version" U-joint. If yours the later version Dana-Spicer "yoke & cross" style, then enough grease to coat the parts is fine. (These use torrington needle bearings cartridges with seal.)

Note that the same version U-joint is used on modern cars without a spherical cover and frequently without even a coat of paint.

Joe K
__________________
Shudda kept the horse.
Joe K is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-18-2017, 07:43 AM   #6
Railcarmover
BANNED
 
Join Date: Apr 2017
Location: Sacramento
Posts: 1,262
Default Re: I tried corn head grease!

Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements)
http://www.yesterdaystractors.com/cg...oard&th=907455

Seems the farm tractor guys dont think much of it,but what do they know
Railcarmover is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-18-2017, 09:32 AM   #7
denniskliesen
Senior Member
 
denniskliesen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2016
Location: SoCal
Posts: 877
Default Re: I tried corn head grease!

Look at how old that thread is. Who knows what condition those gear boxes were in before the corn head grease got pumped in. My thought is if it leaks what is supposed to be in there, fix it. Otherwise the cornhead grease is a patch.
denniskliesen is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-18-2017, 09:53 AM   #8
Y-Blockhead
Senior Member
 
Y-Blockhead's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Redondo Beach, CA
Posts: 5,849
Default Re: I tried corn head grease!

Quote:
Originally Posted by denniskliesen View Post
... My thought is if it leaks what is supposed to be in there, fix it. Otherwise the cornhead grease is a patch.
Mine was leaking out the end of the steering box by the light switch. I recently installed a new Steering Housing End Plate that has a tube welded to it "that goes up above the oil level to prevent oil leaking". It works great, no more leak, even with 600W in the box.

Should be easy to fab one yourself.

Easier to buy one. http://www.snydersantiqueauto.com/st...sing-end-plate
Y-Blockhead is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-19-2017, 10:52 AM   #9
KGBnut
Senior Member
 
KGBnut's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Southwestern Connecticut
Posts: 931
Default Re: I tried corn head grease!

I just replaced my Universal Joint (because of poor lubrication...my fault completely). After doing a lot of research I used Corn Head Grease. My only complaint is that with so little farm land left in my area no one local carries it. I had to order it on-line and paid more for shipping than the grease. Still it was worth it.

I just wish that Bratton's, or Snyder's, or one of them would carry it.

I hadn't thought of it for a leaky steering box, but it sure seems reasonable to me.

Ken
__________________
Style beats speed any day, and with a lot fewer tickets.
KGBnut is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-19-2017, 11:06 AM   #10
Jason in TX
Senior Member
 
Jason in TX's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: ⓉⒺXⒶⓈ
Posts: 2,047
Default Re: I tried corn head grease!

I agree with lubing all the tie rod and steering balls on the front end. That helps so much in turning if all those moving parts are slick and nice.
__________________
--------------
Drive it like you know how to fix it!
DMAFC / OILERS CC-MC
Jason in TX is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-19-2017, 11:56 AM   #11
Licensed to kill
Senior Member
 
Licensed to kill's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: Alberta
Posts: 930
Default Re: I tried corn head grease!

Quote:
Originally Posted by denniskliesen View Post
Look at how old that thread is. Who knows what condition those gear boxes were in before the corn head grease got pumped in. My thought is if it leaks what is supposed to be in there, fix it. Otherwise the cornhead grease is a patch.
Bear in mind that "what is supposed to be in there" is based on 80+ year old lubrication technology and it's not a stretch by any means that something available today could be far and away better than what was available then IMO. Point being that just because something was the recommendation of the day 80 years ago, does not automatically mean it's the best product available today.
Licensed to kill is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-19-2017, 12:15 PM   #12
denniskliesen
Senior Member
 
denniskliesen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2016
Location: SoCal
Posts: 877
Default Re: I tried corn head grease!

Good point Licensed. After all, who would run non detergent oil in there engine - not me. Sorry didn't mean to change the subject...
denniskliesen is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-19-2017, 12:21 PM   #13
Tom F OHIO
Senior Member
 
Tom F OHIO's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Mansfield, Ohio
Posts: 408
Default Re: I tried corn head grease!

So you can grease the steering box instead of putting in 600w oil. Is there a zerk??
Tom F OHIO is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-19-2017, 12:22 PM   #14
iverson
Senior Member
 
iverson's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: freeport il
Posts: 316
Default Re: I tried corn head grease!

we put 50 miles on yesterday so far no leaks. I think what I will do is put a few squrits of corn head grease in the steering gear every time I grease the car there is no draw back to over greasing that I can see it will just go up the column. maybe for 4 bucks a tube it would be best to grease everything with corn head grease?
iverson is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-19-2017, 01:07 PM   #15
Jason in TX
Senior Member
 
Jason in TX's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: ⓉⒺXⒶⓈ
Posts: 2,047
Default Re: I tried corn head grease!

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tom F OHIO View Post
So you can grease the steering box instead of putting in 600w oil. Is there a zerk??
No zerk because it was built to hold oil, not grease. People just shoot grease in the box through the oil fill hole.

People say grease gets pushed out of the binding surfaces in a steering box and doesn't flow back inbetween the metal, so people don't use normal wheel bearing grease. The steering box doesn't get hot like the wheel bearings.

Supposedly cornhead grease still flows because it is a semi liquid grease.
__________________
--------------
Drive it like you know how to fix it!
DMAFC / OILERS CC-MC
Jason in TX is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-19-2017, 01:16 PM   #16
Y-Blockhead
Senior Member
 
Y-Blockhead's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Redondo Beach, CA
Posts: 5,849
Default Re: I tried corn head grease!

Quote:
Originally Posted by iverson View Post
we put 50 miles on yesterday so far no leaks. I think what I will do is put a few squrits of corn head grease in the steering gear every time I grease the car there is no draw back to over greasing that I can see it will just go up the column.
Yeh, Just pump it in there until it comes out the horn button...
Y-Blockhead is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-19-2017, 01:59 PM   #17
Dutie
Senior Member
 
Dutie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: Kingston N>Y>
Posts: 121
Default Re: I tried corn head grease!

This stuff works so good I put it on my hot wieners. After lots of research Ive learned that John Deere Had this grease specially formulated for leaky gearboxes on their farm equipment. Ive watched a video of this stuff in a large gearbox in action with the top of the gearbox removed so you could witness it. will not push off, separate, and is self leveling. Stopped my gear box leak completely. I have used STP full shot and it leaked real slow and is a PITA to clean off. picked mine up at a local John Deere dealer close by for $ 2.50 What a surprise, bought 3 tubes... you never know.
Dutie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-19-2017, 08:06 PM   #18
Step-down
Senior Member
 
Step-down's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Hat City (Danbury CT)
Posts: 647
Default Re: I tried corn head grease!

Must be fun steering in the cold weather ,as it is with 600w in the transmission ...Talk about double clutching in the winter ��
__________________
"I can't cry as long as I know the Lord has risen "
Step-down is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-20-2017, 12:35 AM   #19
denniskliesen
Senior Member
 
denniskliesen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2016
Location: SoCal
Posts: 877
Default Re: I tried corn head grease!

I wish I could find it for $2.50 a tube. Good stuff I'll have to admit. I had experience with it beginning back in 74 on forage harvestors. We took the stalk cutter assembly apart and drilled and tapped for grease fittings. replaced the seals so they wouldn't blow when we pumped grease in. Pumped corn head grease in them 4 times a day, and never lost another cutter assembly after that. If you saw how fast that knife on them rotated back and forth it would make a believer out of you the grease was some pretty good stuff. Sorry to get off Model A steering boxes.

Now my early 29 steering box a 7 tooth has original fittings on it and I've seen others the same way. What did they have on them originally? The original fittings don't have balls and springs on them to keep the grease from squirting back out. But there should be a vent on the top? Yes...no?
denniskliesen is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-20-2017, 01:48 AM   #20
Marshall V. Daut
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Davenport, Iowa
Posts: 2,112
Default Re: I tried corn head grease!

The original "zerk" fittings in seven-tooth boxes were not intended for chassis grease. Ford dealerships had a pump that dispensed the 600w style lube into the steering box under pressure. Unfortunately, later owners and uninformed restorers thought the zerk fitting was for pumping in chassis grease - which they did, ruining the sector teeth after a short time because the chassis grease was squeezed out from between the teeth and the worm gear = no lube. Look at any used sector gear's teeth and you'll see wear gouges on their faces from lack of lubrication.
The zerk fitting in the sector housing, however, could be used for greasing the sector shaft, although the 600w (or Ford equivalent in "the Day") should have been able to work its way through the sector bushing grooves to coat the shaft. A little chassis grease pumped in here ONLY couldn't hurt, though. Just don't pump it into the gear box itself or you'll be joining the Hard Steering/Worn Sector Teeth Club in short order.
Marshall
Marshall V. Daut is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements)


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:07 PM.