The Ford Barn

zedbyers · 07-10-2015, 07:11 PM

Picked this up today for $150

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B98...ew?usp=sharing

it appears to have been bored once at Somerville, all pistons are marked with a C:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B98...ew?usp=sharing

at first glance things don't look too bad, one cylinder had some water in it at some point....

[IMG]https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B98...ew?usp=sharing[/IMG]

[IMG]https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B98...ew?usp=sharing[/IMG]

my fear is that having taking a single bore reading on 1 of the cylinders i come up with 3.219"

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B98...ew?usp=sharing

the heads had 41T marked on them. i was told the engine ran when it came out of a dump truck, has been sitting outside under a roof attached to a barn for sometime now. no signs of cracks as of yet, but i haven't cleaned it up yet, just pulled heads/gaskets, nor have i looked at the bottom end.

assuming no cracks, is there any room left to bore some more if it is needed?

any other thoughts??

Ralph Moore · 07-10-2015, 07:57 PM

Stock 3-3/16" bore is 3.187", so your 3.219 is only .030" over. Lots more room to bore.
But I would recheck with micrometer as a caliper is not going to give an accurate reading, due to cylinder ridge.

Binx · 07-10-2015, 08:02 PM

If it started out life as a 239 then your measurements make it a worn .030 over with a lot more life to go. The round center water hole makes it look like a '39. It looks like it is factory relieved which blower motor builders kill for. Check out this site...

http://www.goldengatev8.org/tips/Evo...heFlathead.pdf

Lonnie

zedbyers · 07-10-2015, 09:01 PM

Good point Lonnie and Ralph. It didn't cross my mind yet that it was a 239 engine. Lonnie, thanks for that link, I hadn't seen that one before. The pics are pretty bad, and the deck isn't that clean, but it isn't relieved.

Binx · 07-10-2015, 09:25 PM

Here's a story from awhile back here on the forum.

https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/showth...apezoid&page=5

Be sure to start from the first page of the thread.

Lonnie

dumb person · 07-10-2015, 09:34 PM

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Yes it probably can.

flatheadmurre · 07-11-2015, 01:47 AM

If one cylinder has bad pits in it put in a sleeve.
That block doesnt seem to bad to me.
Scrape it and check for cracks if it looks good go ahead

Mart · 07-11-2015, 02:35 AM

First place I'd be looking for cracks is around the pan rail. Minor ones can be fixed, but I have a block here that is scrap because of a massive crack at the pan rail.

If it is usable, that was a good score.

Mart.

07-10-2015, 07:11 PM	#1
zedbyers Junior Member Join Date: May 2015 Location: ME/FL Posts: 21	Do you think this block can be used? Picked this up today for $150 https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B98...ew?usp=sharing it appears to have been bored once at Somerville, all pistons are marked with a C: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B98...ew?usp=sharing at first glance things don't look too bad, one cylinder had some water in it at some point.... [IMG]https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B98...ew?usp=sharing[/IMG] [IMG]https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B98...ew?usp=sharing[/IMG] my fear is that having taking a single bore reading on 1 of the cylinders i come up with 3.219" https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B98...ew?usp=sharing the heads had 41T marked on them. i was told the engine ran when it came out of a dump truck, has been sitting outside under a roof attached to a barn for sometime now. no signs of cracks as of yet, but i haven't cleaned it up yet, just pulled heads/gaskets, nor have i looked at the bottom end. assuming no cracks, is there any room left to bore some more if it is needed? any other thoughts??

07-10-2015, 07:57 PM	#2
Ralph Moore Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: North Pole, Alaska Posts: 1,470	Re: Do you think this block can be used? Stock 3-3/16" bore is 3.187", so your 3.219 is only .030" over. Lots more room to bore. But I would recheck with micrometer as a caliper is not going to give an accurate reading, due to cylinder ridge.

07-10-2015, 08:02 PM	#3
Binx Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Gloucester VA Posts: 1,042	Re: Do you think this block can be used? If it started out life as a 239 then your measurements make it a worn .030 over with a lot more life to go. The round center water hole makes it look like a '39. It looks like it is factory relieved which blower motor builders kill for. Check out this site... http://www.goldengatev8.org/tips/Evo...heFlathead.pdf Lonnie

07-10-2015, 09:01 PM	#4
zedbyers Junior Member Join Date: May 2015 Location: ME/FL Posts: 21	Re: Do you think this block can be used? Good point Lonnie and Ralph. It didn't cross my mind yet that it was a 239 engine. Lonnie, thanks for that link, I hadn't seen that one before. The pics are pretty bad, and the deck isn't that clean, but it isn't relieved.

07-10-2015, 09:25 PM	#5
Binx Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Gloucester VA Posts: 1,042	Re: Do you think this block can be used? Here's a story from awhile back here on the forum. https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/showth...apezoid&page=5 Be sure to start from the first page of the thread. Lonnie Last edited by Binx; 07-10-2015 at 10:01 PM.

07-10-2015, 09:34 PM	#6
dumb person Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: South pacific island Posts: 1,724	Re: Do you think this block can be used? Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) Yes it probably can. __________________ <Link> This is how we roll<Link> "I'm Convinced that no one really reads posts anymore; they just fabricate what they think the post says then ramble on about red herrings."--Bob Outcasts rules of old cars #1 Fun is imperative, mainstream is overrated #2 If they think it is impossible, prove them wrong #3 If the science says it impossible you are not being creative enough. #4 No shame in recreating something you never had #5 If it were not for the law & physics you would be unstoppable

07-11-2015, 01:47 AM	#7
flatheadmurre Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Sweden Posts: 3,045	Re: Do you think this block can be used? If one cylinder has bad pits in it put in a sleeve. That block doesnt seem to bad to me. Scrape it and check for cracks if it looks good go ahead

07-11-2015, 02:35 AM	#8
Mart Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Solihull, England. Posts: 8,755	Re: Do you think this block can be used? First place I'd be looking for cracks is around the pan rail. Minor ones can be fixed, but I have a block here that is scrap because of a massive crack at the pan rail. If it is usable, that was a good score. Mart.