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06-24-2014, 02:44 PM | #1 |
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My new Air Filter issue
I recieved my new filter today and all looked good until I checked why the filter was a lil off to the side. Here's what it looks like all together.
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06-24-2014, 02:45 PM | #2 |
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Re: My new Air Filter issue
And here's the issue.
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06-24-2014, 02:47 PM | #3 |
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Re: My new Air Filter issue
I'm thinking instead of calling and going thru the hassle of getting another ill just fix this one and make both sides more secure. I'm thinking drilling and riveting them together.
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06-24-2014, 02:50 PM | #4 |
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Re: My new Air Filter issue
A: send it back. B:solder or tig weld. C: pop rivit. D: Lock-tite five minute epoxy (faster than JB weld. Options.....Dude you have options. P.S. consider ditching the paper filter and go with K&N filter.
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06-24-2014, 05:58 PM | #5 | |
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Re: My new Air Filter issue
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06-24-2014, 02:52 PM | #6 |
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06-24-2014, 03:12 PM | #7 |
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Re: My new Air Filter issue
Who was your supplier? Questioning minds need to know.
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06-24-2014, 03:25 PM | #8 |
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Re: My new Air Filter issue
Hi Barber,
1. Without this filter, crank your Model A engine with your choke plate closed to see if you witness a little gasoline dripping from the intake of the carburetor. 2. Reach in your gas tank & get a little of this exact same fuel & pour a little on only one side, (the horizontal bottom side), of your new filter. 3. With a lit match attached & taped to a 12 foot long wire, place the match next to the very small amount of gasoline on the filter. 4. If the filter does "not" catch on fire .......... put it on your Model A & don't worry about any possible future fire hazards in your engine compartment. 5. In my opinion, it is never wise to follow everything what one reads about Model A's, what actually counts is actual "live" physical experimentation. Hope this helps you to decide what to do in Step #2. |
06-24-2014, 05:55 PM | #9 |
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Re: My new Air Filter issue
I have a better idea: send it back and don't use an air filter.
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06-24-2014, 05:59 PM | #10 |
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I would go along with this idea. I did do this very thing when I purchased one a few years back.
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07-15-2014, 07:47 PM | #11 |
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K&N filters are suitable for long life engine operation. A pleated paper filter is sized for twice the air flow requirement of an engine to allow for loading with dirt and other particulate. The only advantage of a K&N is at max engine rpm like in racing.
I demonstrated a K&N filter for a '97 TBird 4.6 liter by holding the filter at eye level and watching a white car passing through the parking lot while peering through the filter medium. This convince other engineers that micron rating of a filter is most important for long life of an engine. |
06-24-2014, 06:00 PM | #12 |
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Re: My new Air Filter issue
Send it back and get a high boy with K &N filter . Major suppliers stock it.
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06-24-2014, 07:05 PM | #13 |
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06-24-2014, 06:04 PM | #14 |
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Remember - not one of these Model "A"'s rolled off the assembly line with an air filter - all 4,320,000 plus of them ran on those old dirt and mud packed roads without an air filter. It was not a matter of cost - all of those Model "A" Fords had a set of 4 very nice and expensive (for the time) shock absorbers.
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07-16-2014, 08:45 AM | #15 | |
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Yes and about 75,000 miles was about the most you could get from one. The concept of a filter was a good one, however, the application stinks. Fortunately, Today's roads and the mod.A s that drive on them not experiencing the same conditions.
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06-24-2014, 06:07 PM | #16 | |
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06-24-2014, 07:18 PM | #17 |
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One concern keeps coming up about former experiences with former "small" Model A air filters which in the past reduced air flow -- these past sincere concerns definitely have lots of merit.
K & N in their on-line literature correctly describes something I learned about hydraulics over 46 years ago. As crazy as it may appear to some, air filters & devices on the suction end of a round pipe, (such as a Model A carburetor), can "increase" air flow & even increase water flow in water "if": 1. The device has the proper & sufficient "open" areas for air and/or water to flow; &, 2. If the device can assist in retarding turbulence & cavitation of air and/or water in something like the end of a round suction pipe. FWIW: Opinions: Just because John Doe is afraid to open an umbrella in a house ...... what the heck ..... buy him a beer ....... he may be the best friend you may ever have. Then do not be surprised if you later open your umbrella in your house & your air-conditioner immediately breaks ....... sh## can "still" happen whether you open your umbrella ..... or after you install a Model A air filter. Last edited by H. L. Chauvin; 06-24-2014 at 07:20 PM. Reason: typo |
06-24-2014, 07:30 PM | #18 |
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H.L. very good info, but the stock carb was not made to use an air filter (jetting or air flow ) the real scare is those updrafts are prone to leaking fuel .load that paper filter up with gas (even the K&N ) you all know the rest of the story.
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06-24-2014, 08:03 PM | #19 |
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On a high boy ,the k & n filter is above the throat of the carburator. Wonder why Henry put oil bath air filters on 32 model.
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06-24-2014, 08:01 PM | #20 |
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Hi Machine Girl,
Agree 100%. I never even tried installing a paper filter down below a Model A or Model B carburetor -- just me -- but some may have different opinions which I respect. The filter I presently have up high on my Model A is described in reply no 27 further down under the question in message title: Re: Air filter for Model A Some probably would not like this one either. I have learned long ago to never worry too much about if the millions of Chinese in China are presently eating Cheerios for breakfast or not; & really, I learned to never try to change all of their minds & to try to force them to eat Corn Flakes ........ with or without strawberries. Hope this helps with opinions. |
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