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Old 03-02-2024, 04:23 PM   #21
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As they say it is more cost effective to look for an 85hp car. If the 60 was really cheap, there are a lot of head aches with istalling an 85. Most of all finding a GOOD engine to start with.
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Old 03-03-2024, 04:19 PM   #22
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I can't believe anyone would want to put a 700 lb Olds in a Ford. If a OHV engine,I would opt of a 292 Yblock (about the same weight as a 85 hp) or a rear sump 302, with a closed drive T5 trans.
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Old 03-03-2024, 07:59 PM   #24
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I can't believe anyone would want to put a 700 lb Olds in a Ford. If a OHV engine,I would opt of a 292 Yblock (about the same weight as a 85 hp) or a rear sump 302, with a closed drive T5 trans.
I'm not certain what that '49 Rocket engine weighed that I'd installed in the '46 Ford years ago but can't imagine anywhere near 700#.
The large straight eight in my '31 Buick is shy of 700# (not by much).
Regardless, the '49 Rocket was kind of legendary back in the day and fit perfectly beneath the hood of the Ford.
Back then, adapters were readily available and made the installation appear as if it came from the Ford assembly line.
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Old 03-03-2024, 08:52 PM   #25
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Thanks, Kube. Some people get it, some don't.
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Old 03-04-2024, 10:40 AM   #26
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Old 03-04-2024, 10:46 AM   #27
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I can't believe anyone would want to put a 700 lb Olds in a Ford. If a OHV engine,I would opt of a 292 Yblock (about the same weight as a 85 hp) or a rear sump 302, with a closed drive T5 trans.
Hhmmmm, Olds 303 Rocket came out in '49. 292 Y block was '55 I believe after all of the issues with the 239 Y Block top end oiling. 292 Y blocks weighs 625 lbs. That's six years of lead time for those grubbing hot rodders to get their hands on one.

According to the interwebs, it claims that the 303 Olds weighed 671 lbs. & produced 135 HP and 253 ft lbs of torque with the 2 barrel carb.

Olds Rocket was a the first "true" hot rod engine. I believe Kube said he did it back in the day, not now.
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Old 03-04-2024, 11:04 AM   #28
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Hhmmmm, Olds 303 Rocket came out in '49. 292 Y block was '55 I believe after all of the issues with the 239 Y Block top end oiling. 292 Y blocks weighs 625 lbs. That's six years of lead time for those grubbing hot rodders to get their hands on one.

According to the interwebs, it claims that the 303 Olds weighed 671 lbs. & produced 135 HP and 253 ft lbs of torque with the 2 barrel carb.

Olds Rocket was a the first "true" hot rod engine. I believe Kube said he did it back in the day, not now.
Tim,
You are correct in that I did that swap "back in the day". Being young and inexperienced I did not think through the chassis changes that surely would have made that ride more enjoyable, read: safer.
The car was scary quick, no doubt due to the additional HP and the torque increase.
Ah, the good ol' days
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Old 03-04-2024, 12:19 PM   #29
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Kube, I'll bet that Olds was a good runner and probably modified to perform that well. Being a flathead guy, I have never had a "Fordsmobile", but I was involved with making a couple in the early sixties for some friends. The first was an early 303 of indeterminant heritage from the local junkyard into a '40 Tudor. We got it in after figuring out the starter and oil filter interference problems. The engine burned a little oil and was not fresh by any means but it provided an acceptable performance over the flathead that had been in it before. Because of my experience, I was "drafted" a few years later to help another guy put a fresh '57 J2 into a low mile '39 Standard Tudor. Now that car was flat out scary; the difference was like night and day.

One thing to add. Although the 303 Olds is quoted as weighing 671 lbs., all of them required an aluminum starter "switchover" housing to replace the cast iron original. When you add an aluminum intake instead of a stocker, you save over 50 lbs.

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Old 03-04-2024, 02:46 PM   #30
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