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Brendan · 08-18-2013, 07:05 PM

with everything put together, how much movement of the axels can there be?
I think there was about .010 on the pass side and no movement on the drivers. please help ! what do you think is wrong?

Lawrie · 08-18-2013, 09:41 PM

Brendon, what governs the end play in the axles is the distance from the underside of the spider gear part on the axle where it fits into the carrier and the middle part of the spider gear crass.
I would think .010 would be OK but you want some on both sides.
Lawrie

white64 · 09-19-2013, 07:30 AM

how much is too much... ? On the 46 axle in my A, I can see movement when I push on the wheel with my knees. This happens on both sides.

Kurt in NJ · 09-19-2013, 07:57 AM

Without the wheel bearing supporting the end of the axle there will be up-down movement ---do not worry about this movement

The V15 repair book lists these specs for axle movement--

Axle shaft endplay -- .003, tp .006"
Backlash between axle gear and differential pinion -- .010"
clearance between differential pinion gear and spyder shaft- .005- .008"

I know that with new parts made by Ford that it is easy to have these specs, but with used parts you have to decide how much more you can be happy with

Bassman/NZ · 09-19-2013, 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by white64

how much is too much... ? On the 46 axle in my A, I can see movement when I push on the wheel with my knees. This happens on both sides.

Same here.

Brendan · 09-19-2013, 07:10 PM

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well I got it put back together, and got about 100 miles on the A, there is no funny noises. so I think everything is good!

white64 · 09-20-2013, 08:01 AM

Went around a rotary/traffic circle/round-about (whatever they call them in your part of the world) this morning, left hand turn and hear the left rear brake drum drag.. a metal to metal sound. A little alarming! The hub nut is @ 220lbs...

Is this "normal"?.. is the taper on the axle/hub shot? Is the drum flexing?

(46 axle, with 1935 16' wire wheels with the correct wheel spacers...)

white64 · 10-02-2013, 08:42 AM

no ideas?

Brendan · 10-02-2013, 09:14 AM

I was working on a Model A rear, the axle taper is different then on a V8. I had to cut an 1/8 inch off the inside lip of the backing plate, and 1/8 inch off the drum, also grind down the shoes. I don't know what would cause your trouble

08-18-2013, 07:05 PM	#1
Brendan Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: At my kitchen table in Santa Rosa, Ca Posts: 2,903	My Banjo question? with everything put together, how much movement of the axels can there be? I think there was about .010 on the pass side and no movement on the drivers. please help ! what do you think is wrong? __________________ If it would have been a snake it would have bit ya! i can't spell my way out of a paper bag!

08-18-2013, 09:41 PM	#2
Lawrie Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Qld, Australia Posts: 4,216	Re: My Banjo question? Brendon, what governs the end play in the axles is the distance from the underside of the spider gear part on the axle where it fits into the carrier and the middle part of the spider gear crass. I would think .010 would be OK but you want some on both sides. Lawrie

09-19-2013, 07:30 AM	#3
white64 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Pittston , MAine Posts: 222	Re: My Banjo question? how much is too much... ? On the 46 axle in my A, I can see movement when I push on the wheel with my knees. This happens on both sides.

09-19-2013, 07:57 AM	#4
Kurt in NJ Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: on the Littlefield Posts: 6,159	Re: My Banjo question? Without the wheel bearing supporting the end of the axle there will be up-down movement ---do not worry about this movement The V15 repair book lists these specs for axle movement-- Axle shaft endplay -- .003, tp .006" Backlash between axle gear and differential pinion -- .010" clearance between differential pinion gear and spyder shaft- .005- .008" I know that with new parts made by Ford that it is easy to have these specs, but with used parts you have to decide how much more you can be happy with

09-19-2013, 07:10 PM	#6
Brendan Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: At my kitchen table in Santa Rosa, Ca Posts: 2,903	Re: My Banjo question? Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) well I got it put back together, and got about 100 miles on the A, there is no funny noises. so I think everything is good! __________________ If it would have been a snake it would have bit ya! i can't spell my way out of a paper bag!

09-20-2013, 08:01 AM	#7
white64 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Pittston , MAine Posts: 222	Re: My Banjo question? Went around a rotary/traffic circle/round-about (whatever they call them in your part of the world) this morning, left hand turn and hear the left rear brake drum drag.. a metal to metal sound. A little alarming! The hub nut is @ 220lbs... Is this "normal"?.. is the taper on the axle/hub shot? Is the drum flexing? (46 axle, with 1935 16' wire wheels with the correct wheel spacers...) Last edited by white64; 09-20-2013 at 12:32 PM.

10-02-2013, 08:42 AM	#8
white64 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Pittston , MAine Posts: 222	Re: My Banjo question? no ideas?

10-02-2013, 09:14 AM	#9
Brendan Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: At my kitchen table in Santa Rosa, Ca Posts: 2,903	Re: My Banjo question? I was working on a Model A rear, the axle taper is different then on a V8. I had to cut an 1/8 inch off the inside lip of the backing plate, and 1/8 inch off the drum, also grind down the shoes. I don't know what would cause your trouble __________________ If it would have been a snake it would have bit ya! i can't spell my way out of a paper bag!