Extinct Model A

[Stretch Cab]

I was wondering if there is a production model of a US made Model A that does not exist today?

I know there were a lot of custom made units especially using commercial cowls but are we missing a representation of any body styles that rolled off a Ford assembly line?

[WTSHNN]

Probably the Travelers Wagon. Only recreations are known to exist.

[Oldbluoval]

There are very few actual slant town car deliveries. I know of several originals (10-12, maybe??) but there’s several that are “tributes”, clones, knock-offs, counterfeit ….whatever one wishes to attribute to them.

[ronn]

good eye old blue- I was speaking to a fella from Cali about 2 weeks ago and his quest is to find one of those. Never realized they were that rare. I thought the towncars were rarer, but I was wrong.


now Ive admitted to it..............wrong lol

[WTSHNN]

The '30 Town Car Delivery only one is known to exist.

[ronn]

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the same with the town car- only one 30 known up in NY and a basket case at that.

[Oldbluoval]

I said maybe 10-12 originals, hip shoot! I’ve actually heard 8; I know of 5 personally.
I yield but I thought there were more than one 30 town car deliveries?. Tim Kelly had one(?) I saw one in Atlanta 35 years ago. May not have know enough at that time in discern a clone??
There is a original slant currently being restored but the owner is quite private

Ronn…hope your friend is a lottery winner. I “heard” RoyFrost’s went for $250k +

[Synchro909]

This is BS territory so I cannot vouch for the accuracy of this but I have been told 3 Model As were fitted with the new V8 engine for test purposes, then dismantled. I know, I know, they were not a production model but.......

[Clem Clement]

The delivery standup van?

[ronn]

Ronn…hope your friend is a lottery winner. I “heard” RoyFrost’s went for $250k +


he has bought and sold enough national winners to make one's head spin. dont think $ is the problem.........just availability.

[Oldbluoval]

Yeah there ain’t one out there that I know of……not sure where Roy’s went but think it stayed in the south…..
Money will flush out a lot of stuff! Every thing has a price except my dog……my wife doesn’t read FB!

Clem..I’ve only seen one Stand drive and one chassis. Not sure the full van was original production but look good enuff to have been just a redo of original.

[Clem Clement]

The base was shown at a national someplace. I still don't remember how to shift gears in the thing.

[jb-ob]

Clem,

Roger Kaufman's Stand Drive Delivery was at the Maffi show several years ago.

Ol' Blue Oval,

1931 Straight Windshield Blind Back Sedan, with only 711 being made, half the Town Car & Town Car Delivery production.

'still just a Ford'.

[WTSHNN]

Standrives;

Here's one that's been on ebay forever.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/12250204120...cAAOSwn-tZHQVa

Another one just popped up on Facebook last week in similar condition.

The Elliot Museum in Stuart, Fl has one on display. Like Jim said, Roger's was on display at Gilmore a few Model A Day's ago.

Towncar Deliveries;
There is only one known '30 TCD which was displayed at Model A Day a few years back.

As for '31 S/W TCD's there's a handful of originals plus a few clones/tributes/recreations.

Towncars;
There's the swiss cheese '30 body that has been for sale for multiple years without a buyer.

There's a well known '30 TC that was restored by the late Bob Carini that exists today.

I believe there was at least one other known '30 TC floating around.

[redmodelt]

Later Model AA's that were factory fitted with Lincoln style wire wheels, used for the funeral trade. With this one, I know of 2. Both in about the same shape.

[redmodelt]

Stand drive for sale, no connection;
https://www.smokstak.com/forum/threa...-drive.219665/

[Randy in ca]

Originally Posted by WTSHNN

Probably the Travelers Wagon. Only recreations are known to exist.

This one is advertised as a 1950's re-creation.

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[CarlG]

Originally Posted by redmodelt

Later Model AA's that were factory fitted with Lincoln style wire wheels, used for the funeral trade. With this one, I know of 2. Both in about the same shape.

Just had no idea what I had. This was my first "car" when I was 14 years old.

[Dick Carne]

The late Wendell Townsend also restored a 1930 Town Car back in the 1970’s. I’m not sure where it wound up, but it was not the same one that Bob Cabrini had. Wendell was from the Atlanta area at time.

[jb-ob]

Dick,
Both 1930's where part of the Tim Kelly collection. Wendel's car in now in a private collection elsewhere and the Kelly family still owns the remaining '30.

[Bob Bidonde]

Extinct & Rare Model A's & AA's
• 54A Business Coupe
• 55B Deluxe Tudor
• 60B Black Leather-Back Fordor
• 60C 2-Window Fordor
• 76B Open Pickup with Phone Company Back
• 130B Deluxe Delivery Drop Floor
• 135A Taxicab
• 140A Town Car
• 140B Town Car
• 150A 1928 Station Wagon
• 160A Standard Slant Window Fordor
• 160C Deluxe Slant Window Fordor
• 180A Deluxe Phaeton
• 225A “A” Panel Delivery Drop Floor
• 255A Special Delivery
• 295A Town Car Delivery
• 300A “AA” Deluxe Delivery
• Traveler’s Wagon
• Ambulance
• Patrol Wagon
• Funeral Coach
• 3-Window Coupe
• “AA” Service Car
All 157 Wheel Base Trucks & Busses

[Planojc]

Wonder how many 1927 Model A's are left.

[ronn]

never saw a 3 window coupe or knew it even existed.......

[Gary Karr]

The slant 3 window Coupe does exist. It was on display at the MAFCA Queen Mary national meet in 1976. I believe that it is still here in SoCal.

[Oldbluoval]

Yep seen it …prototype not production
I’d considered building one but life is getting by! Won’t happen

[ronn]

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easier to buy a 32 3 window old blue.............


sometimes life is a compromise.

[Gary Karr]

Originally Posted by Planojc

Wonder how many 1927 Model A's are left.

There are many including one in my garage!

[CHuDWah]

Originally Posted by Oldbluoval

Yep seen it …prototype not production
I’d considered building one but life is getting by! Won’t happen

That one was built in 1931. There also was an earlier one that was built in 1930 and apparently no longer exists.

https://www.fordgarage.com/pages/protothreewindow.htm

[Gene F]

I agree, those Town Cars are very scarce. Another one that is hard to come by is the Fridgadare pickups. But there were more of them.

[CHuDWah]

Originally Posted by WTSHNN

Probably the Travelers Wagon. Only recreations are known to exist.

Yup. 1931 only - less than a dozen built and no known survivors.



Equipped with everything the intrepid explorer needed - folding bed, storage chest, overhead water tank (fill spout on roof), folding wash pan, and screens with curtains in the rear. It also had locking doors with roll-up windows in the front ones.

[Oldbluoval]

easier to buy a 32 3 window old blue............


Easier on the back and billfold to do without either……that dream was when I was 50!

[Randy in ca]

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[jb-ob]

There exists a single, very grainy photo of a slant windshield DeLuxe Pickup. Like the Locke Ness Monster, there have been sightings......

Looking at random blue prints at the Ford Achieves, I found a print for a wiring harness to install Town Car Delivery side lamps on a DeLuxe Pickup.

Amazing hobby that keeps on giving....

[Oldbluoval]

When I was daydreaming of cloning a 3 window….
It was noted the rear clip is far different than Model A. More like a 32 which could be since it’s a slant and late in A production

[ronn]

Easier on the back and billfold to do without either……that dream was when I was 50!


it is always easier to go through life doing nothing.........


sometimes I wish I was geared that way.

[Oldbluoval]

it is always easier to go through life doing nothing...

That would be nice! I have 30 years of backlog if I get it all done!! It’s been that way for 20 years. I used to do full resto but have reduced size of projects. And it had been part time until 18 mos ago
And I’m 74! Old legs and back just won’t work like the did at 40!!
If I live and take nothing new….I’ll be 103 when caught up!!
Wheeew

[jb-ob]

OlBlue,

Nope, you have become too talented & knowledgeable

Remember when a quart of Rustoleum and a cheap brush could restore a Model A rear axle ??

[Oldbluoval]

Yeah a wire brush was our sand blaster too!

[dean from bozeman]

There is/was a 1931 slant windshield in the Wisconsin Automotive Museum in Hartford, Wisconsin. Sign says that it was one of six built for General Electric. I have two grainy photos of it that I took in 2004.

Looking at their website, there is a photo in the Gallery that shows the front of the slant windshield Deluxe Pickup. (https://wisconsinautomuseum.com/showroom-gallery/)

By the way, I should note that this museum is located in the building where Kissel automobiles were manufactured. It is located about 30 miles north of Milwaukee. It is a jewel of a car museum.

[ronn]

another great thread!


thanks for the photos Dean. esp like the one of the wooden "sleeper" never have seen that configuration on a travel trailer.

[CHuDWah]

Originally Posted by jb-ob

There exists a single, very grainy photo of a slant windshield DeLuxe Pickup. Like the Locke Ness Monster, there have been sightings......

Looking at random blue prints at the Ford Achieves, I found a print for a wiring harness to install Town Car Delivery side lamps on a DeLuxe Pickup.

Amazing hobby that keeps on giving....

I've seen an article on the web about the DeLuxe Pickup - of course I can't find it now. Anyway, it had a concept drawing - don't remember whether it was "official" Ford. IIRC, the truck in the drawing had a slant windshield top sorta like the 3-window coupe pictured in post #32 above. It had TCD side lamps on the quarter panels behind the doors.

[WTSHNN]

Originally Posted by CHuDWah

I've seen an article on the web about the DeLuxe Pickup - of course I can't find it now. Anyway, it had a concept drawing - don't remember whether it was "official" Ford. IIRC, the truck in the drawing had a slant windshield top sorta like the 3-window coupe pictured in post #32 above. It had TCD side lamps on the quarter panels behind the doors.

https://www.hemmings.com/stories/201...-deluxe-pickup

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[WTSHNN]

Here are the photos from Dean.







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[ronn]

other then the "landau" lights........ looks good.


Personally think it looks like an early 32 and sure Ford was on the quest of designing for the following yr.

[Stretch Cab]

Thanks so much for the great contributions to this thread. I'm like a kid in a candy store or with the "new" Sears Christmas catalog (remember those?) when I see all these different Model A styles. I want them all.

I think we could start a new thread on the Deluxe Pickup. The one in the pictures does not look like the one in the drawing. Was the truck in the drawing ever built?

[GPierce]

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Deluxe Pickup

[CHuDWah]

Originally Posted by WTSHNN

https://www.hemmings.com/stories/201...-deluxe-pickup

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Yep, that's it - thanks! From the pix you posted, a few actually were built. Although it looks like it has the 78-B or maybe 78-A box rather than the 66-A Deluxe box.