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Old 09-08-2012, 10:57 AM   #1
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Hi,

This is Martin in SE Ohio. Many of you were very helpful on my previous thread regarding building an e28 distributor. Made some pics this morning and have a few more questions. (By the way, my Judging Standards is 1997 Edition - ordered the updates today. Have had my car 10 years):

*Distributor Body - ABMC markings, square notches for upper plate ears.
Third pic - what is the threaded screw hole in the upper part of
the body for?? It doesn't match other dizzy bodies I have seen.

*Upper Plates - are any one of these an e28?? Read the Standards but
I'm not sure that any of these match the description. As I
understand it, arm should be flat with a riveted ball and the tower
for the points should be cast into the plate, not screwed on.
Some of these have one characteristic or another but not all.
Only one is marked ABMC. Any advice will be appreciated.

Car is A 11739, January 20, '28 - not ve28, but in the middle of e28.

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Old 09-08-2012, 11:24 AM   #2
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OK, Here in picture #3 you show the 2nd type plate used in the 28 dist, the one with out the rivited ball.. Not show is the VE/27/28 style..It is shown in the other post by C.Reese
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Old 09-08-2012, 02:08 PM   #3
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Marty, that distributor that you have is not only the correct one but in excellent condition. For those not familiar with the early ones, look at the squared cuts on the top where the distributor plate goes in. Most are "moon shaped" and the early ones are squared.

Below are three photos of the early forged distributor plate with the riveted ball. Marty your Phaeton is early enough for it to have had a forged distributor plate.




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Old 09-08-2012, 02:35 PM   #4
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Dean, Fred,

Thanks for the data. I am concluding that I don't have the correct upper plate which should be forged, have a forged in point tower, and a rivited ball.

Fred, do you know when the style with the one piece arm (not riveted ball) and the forged in point tower would be introduced??

If it is January or even February 1928, then I'll be content with using that one as already have it in my parts box.

Just for fun, including three more pics of e28 distributor upper body and cap, including double Ford script on the cap and notched arm opening/single locator pin opening, no script, on the body. Let me know any comments.

Did anyone know about the strange threaded screw hole in the iron body of my distributor. You can see it in the pic, just under the upper lip of the metal body. Don't know what that is for??

Looking forward to receiving the updated J/Standards book and also ordered the distributor book.

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Old 09-08-2012, 02:40 PM   #5
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Forgot to mention the pic of the three battery cable connectors. Not sure at all if these are Ford or e28??? Judging Standards don't seem definitive on these. If you look closely, one is marked #3 and has P and N on the tabs. Another is marked N and is probably at ground strap (why N?) and the third is unmarked. Any thoughts on these??
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Old 09-08-2012, 04:20 PM   #6
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We currently have it written that the new plate was used after January. They actually planned the change earlier but other factors led us to push the date up a little.

Most of the Bosch plates of that type I've seen were copper plated. Has that one been messed with? I've never seen that screw hole in other "housings" and have no idea why it would be there.

When you receive the revisions you will appreciate several entries on early '28 features within the main body areas such as "Engine Compartment", etc. Researching several items in various areas led me to learn more about early '28 stuff than I ever intended.
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Old 09-08-2012, 05:13 PM   #7
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Marco, I have 4 or 5 just like the one Dean posted here & all are the same as his, Cad plated & not messed with...I also have 5 dist bodies with no extra screw holes..
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Marco, this one came off of a low mileage, e28 (A7191). It is cadmium plated like those Fred has. The only early plates that I have seen copper plated are the second generation ones (like the one on the right in Marty's photo).
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Old 09-08-2012, 08:42 PM   #9
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Mr. Mindling: a lot of the info above is in the set of files I sent you recently. I'm no authority, just stolen from many of the big guys If you didn't receive, let me know and i will resend
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since we are in a distributor thread, does anyone have any info on the "wax-like" plug that was apparently used to cover the casting hole for access to the condenser screw. photos, dimensions, etc would be interesting
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Marco, this one came off of a low mileage, e28 (A7191). It is cadmium plated like those Fred has. The only early plates that I have seen copper plated are the second generation ones (like the one on the right in Marty's photo).
Yes, I was responding entirely to the original post. I need to be more clear. However it's nice to match your pic with an engine number. It would be great to similarly match up any other early '28 engines with either type plate.
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since we are in a distributor thread, does anyone have any info on the "wax-like" plug that was apparently used to cover the casting hole for access to the condenser screw. photos, dimensions, etc would be interesting
I inserted a very good pic in the revised Area-2 of the Standards.
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I inserted a very good pic in the revised Area-2 of the Standards.
that's where (2-22, 2011 revision) i first learned of this item. any dimensions/color, etc. and suggestions as to how to reproduce? must have been a high temp resistant material.
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Old 09-09-2012, 12:33 PM   #14
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Dean, Fred, Marco, Charles,

Many thanks for all the helpful tips.
When the distributor project is finished, will post pics of all sides and inside so you can see the results.

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