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11-19-2014, 11:27 PM | #1 |
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Recently Acquired 50 Ford With A Merc Engine
First question: What oil filter to use in the canister?
Second: What is the oil replacement quantity in this engine? Thanks in advance! Test. |
11-20-2014, 12:28 AM | #2 |
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Re: Recently Acquired 50 Ford With A Merc Engine
NAPA # is 1006. 5qts.
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11-20-2014, 10:22 AM | #3 |
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Re: Recently Acquired 50 Ford With A Merc Engine
Have spent some quality time on the site reading about these flat head engines. Tried to search for the differences between the 8ba (or is it b8a?) and the 59ab. As described earlier, this car has a Merc engine (where it is to have the 4" stroke) also has the thin water pump pulley configuration.
Just really enjoy getting to know more about the engine and all the mods that can be done to these tried and true machines. Thanks for your help in advance. Test. PS: A picture or it's not real: Last edited by Test Osterone; 11-27-2014 at 01:19 PM. |
11-28-2014, 07:49 AM | #5 |
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Had one just like that in 1960, but was white ! Nice car you have !
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Howdy Test Osterone, and Everyone else! I'm certainly no engine expert but if you are curious about the crank... Same trick to find TDC on any given cylinder.
Couldn't an easy stroke test be to take a chopstick or ke-bob stick and put it down a handy empty spark plug hole, mark lowest and highest points when spinning engine BY HAND and bingo, a rough stroke measurement? Be sure to video it for us, don't shoot the stick across the garage or dent the underside of the hood. I always wear safety glasses. You might have to jiggle the stick a little as it moves up and down so it doesn't get crushed, but that's why you use something soft (no screwdrivers) and don't use power to turn the engine. Just a thought, and congrats on the new car, I think that year is very sharp. edit: Waitaminute! What is that silver thing parked next to your new baby? Looks like an 'I' car, ends with the letter I? Duh, on third look I noticed the banner. Color me green with envy.
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The only thing you can measure through the spark plug hole on a Ford flathead is the exhaust valve lift. You have to either remove a head or the oil pan to measure stroke.
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11-28-2014, 10:43 AM | #10 |
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Yup, that's what I get fer thinkin' again. Of course the spark plug hole is not above the piston, goofball!
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11-28-2014, 04:44 PM | #12 |
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The biggest problem here is the distributor, regardless of the stroke. Swaping intake and carbs has ab affect on timing and these distributore don't work very well when everything is right.
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11-28-2014, 06:21 PM | #13 |
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I agree Ron, it's a stupid distributor.
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11-28-2014, 07:25 PM | #14 |
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It looks like it has a Malory dist. Walt
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11-28-2014, 07:56 PM | #15 |
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Yep! and one with centrifugal advance as well. Maybe not as good as a good vac. advance but better than original.
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Really? Seeems to work well. Should it be a different configuration for even better performance? How to tell if it is a Malory dist? From the discussions above, is this configuration not desirable? Quote:
Guys, Really appreciate your contribution to this thread and certainly for my education on all things "flathead!" Again, many thanks for all of your comments as well as contributions and help on all the various applications for this most interesting platform. Test. Last edited by Test Osterone; 11-29-2014 at 02:52 AM. |
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The Merc intake I was relating to is the stock OEM one, it has a four bolt carb flange and bigger bore riser part (the bit twix the carb and the front and rear facing inlet tracts) not a "high rise"
The distributor, I was relating to the stock Loadamatic one, this is the stupid one. I hadn't actually looked at your pic, just agreeing with Ron. Should read all posts, my mistake. yours appears to be a Mallory with centrifugal advance. These more often than not have the wrong advance curve from the factory, it uses a sbc Chevy curve. It'll run and to someone that hasnt driven a Flathead with the right ignition curve, will appear to work "ok". I can tell you for certain, if it has the wrong advance curve now, recalibrating the distributor with the right curve will make you smile, a lot. The difference can be huge. With higher compression like yours, a sbc curve can give getting on for twice the advance you need or want, hurts power a lot. Centrifugal advance + vacuum advance will give you all you need. The vacuum advance will increase your mpg. Still gota be curved right though. Nice car, yours appears to have an 8BA-8RT intake, not the Merc one. Martin. |
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Let's see some more pics of the shoebox please.
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What is the best distributor configuration for this application? .[/QUOTE] The consensus seems to be a modified GM or a modified Mallory with vacuum advance (like I am using) see here-- https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/showthread.php?t=102434
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11-29-2014, 10:39 AM | #21 |
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scooder, Blu Dice, 51 Merc-CT:
Appreciate your response and knowledge on the distributor/intake manifold. If the distributor on this engine is not set up correctly, then will be (as suggested) really pleased with the correct set up since the car seems to runs well with lots of torque. Not a clue on the mpg at this point since have only put maybe a couple hundred miles on the car. Will dive into this later on this winter. More pictures of the car: Thanks again for your help. Test. |
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Wow that is one sweet car.
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11-30-2014, 08:23 AM | #23 |
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That is by far the nicest car in that shop. The other Ford is also nice, two nice cars.
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12-10-2014, 08:41 PM | #24 |
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The main reason for this car is to use it to cheer up my Dad. Recently his wife of 68 years suddenly died and the 50 Ford Club Coupe was his (their) very first car.
Thanksgiving was the reveal to my Dad. He had forgot he gave me the license plate off his car some 25 years ago so it was a natural to install it on this one: http://youtu.be/PLr2h_8FsQg Oh God, was the phrase of the day! Since then we have spent more time in the car and having some fun: Tomorrow is a little outing for breakfast. Best, Test. |
12-10-2014, 09:26 PM | #25 |
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I have a big soft spot for the '50 Ford, and the dark green is the color of mine that left me so many good memories. Yours is a beautiful car.
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