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04-04-2021, 04:26 AM | #1 |
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Plug connector options?
I just got my Winfield head installed, and it turns out that, because the Winfield locates the spark plugs between the valves, the stock plug connectors are just barely too short to connect plugs 1 and 4 to the distributor body.
Does anyone have a suggestion for an alternative connector that will work with the stock distributor? I can get 7mm wire and crimp some terminals, I guess, but I'm not sure what terminal type would work best. |
04-04-2021, 05:43 AM | #2 |
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Re: Plug connector options?
Even for a standard head, I lengthen the leads by cutting them and soldering in what ever length is needed to do the job. I use a piece of shim brass to do the job. I always lengthen #3 lead so I can get it clear of the body enough to prevent the infamous Model A #3/#4 cross over and no body has noticed yet.
Hope that helps!
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04-04-2021, 07:37 AM | #3 |
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3 X spark plugs ? I bought new 3X plugs( the forums said they run so much better) and the connectors where almost to short, to close the the cap body. Well my a didn't run well so I bought the champion replacements and they are about 1/2 in taller, no more clearance issues! My head is the 6.0 hc Snyder
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04-04-2021, 08:07 AM | #4 |
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No, it's the W18Y. The connectors would work if the plugs were about two inches taller, but I'd rather get longer wires.
I don't have soldering skills unfortunately. |
04-04-2021, 08:15 AM | #5 |
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Purchase some brass shim stock and make/cut your own.
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04-04-2021, 09:17 AM | #11 |
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I thought about that. Plan B was to get generic plug wires at AutoZone and crimp new terminals on ‘em.
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04-04-2021, 09:38 AM | #12 |
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Beware running a manual advance distributor with a high compression head...as compression goes up,the engines tolerance for timing deviation reduces.
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04-04-2021, 09:41 AM | #13 |
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I'm using the modern cap and wires with my Winfield head.
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04-04-2021, 09:43 AM | #14 |
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Bailing wire works.
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04-04-2021, 11:28 AM | #16 |
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the gyro? best map it with a timing light..
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04-04-2021, 11:42 AM | #17 |
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I haven't worked with timing lights before. What am I "mapping" exactly?
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You use a pointer and a degree reference for the crankshaft pulley, nurex has them. Then use a cheapie tach dwell meter ,it reeds rpm off of the points. Once those two are set rig the timing light and start the engine.. The strobe from the light on the pointer will tell the nurex advance.. per rpm.. the model a ford engine performs optimally at 1 degree advance per 100 rpm...so at 500 rpm or idle,5 degrees, it should read 10 degrees at 1000 with a maximum advance at 24 degrees..By check the advance at various rpms you are basically mapping the timing..something I would definately do with the gyro,
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04-05-2021, 03:00 PM | #21 |
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Correct, this mapping already exists and is one of the reasons I bought the Nu-Rex device. At this point I don't have a reason to think it's not working as designed. If I start to get timing issues then I'll look into mapping my unit.
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04-10-2021, 12:11 PM | #22 |
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Update: The Model B connectors are also not quite long enough. But there's enough length that I can cut them asymmetrically and have a friend help me solder them together to make two long and two short connectors.
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when the late Roger Kauffman was driving from OH to CA in the 1990s he lost a plug connecter somewhere out in the boonies.
He cut a length of barbed wire from a derilect fence row and fabricated a connector out of it. Worked fine and looked so cool he left it in place after returning home......
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04-20-2021, 09:19 PM | #24 |
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Well, this sort of worked. 3 out of 4 of the soldered connectors are holding so far. One snapped and was too damaged to be put back together at the required length, so I made a wire.
I dunno, these don't look as good as I'd hoped. I think I'll make some wires instead. Maybe I can use the red-on-black Model T spark plug wire and terminals. Last edited by alexiskai; 04-20-2021 at 09:34 PM. |
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04-21-2021, 12:31 AM | #27 |
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Restoration Supply Company has a whole page of Vintage Spark Plug Terminals, if interested. Page 3 of their catalog. https://restorationstuff.com/shop/#fb0=5
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04-21-2021, 12:40 AM | #28 |
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RSC is too pricey, the brass terminals should work just fine.
The main problem I have to solve is that the spade terminal on the stock plug connector relies on spring action to work – the connector pushes the terminal against the distributor insert, which holds it in place. A wire won't push, it just hangs. So I need to take those ring terminals and form a slot in them like a keyhole, so they'll go over the insert and then lock into place. |
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04-21-2021, 12:51 PM | #30 |
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I saw that one, but it makes me nervous. I want something with a closed end.
Edit: Posted my solution to this problem in another thread https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/showthread.php?p=2019342 Last edited by alexiskai; 05-23-2021 at 11:45 AM. |
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