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Old 09-16-2019, 12:16 PM   #1
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Default 1930 cabriolet wood pieces

Hey there, just picked up my first model A to restore and it was completely torn down to individual pieces and as I am trying to figure out what part goes where I am going to need a lot of woof to recreate the sub-frame I have all the tooling I need to make my own wood but what I am lacking is some patterns or sketches. Mostly I am after the 2 side pieces that run from the cowl to the rear of the quarter panels. Yes I know I can buy the parts but I would rather make my own. That is just me. Any sketches or dimensions would be greatly appreciated. I added a photo of what I am looking for but its not my car.
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Old 09-16-2019, 12:57 PM   #2
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The body sill members individually are a 3D part with complex shape and transition. Most of the bodies made by Briggs and Murray had a lot of wood. The wood is shaped to fit the body sheet metal pretty snuggly so it can be attached. There are clearanced areas for fit up of other chassis & body components. Maybe someone has a scale print of one but I don't know. A print of one showing the curvature and tapers and all that would be complex. You can see in your photo as well as others how they were made.
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A person could use formed soft foam to fabricate a pattern but it would take a while to get it to fit all the particulars of it's design. Having all the sheet metal in good condition would aid a lot toward using it to fabricate the members both horizontal and vertical. It has to fit fairly close for attachment with nails screws and that.

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Old 09-16-2019, 01:12 PM   #3
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So far the sheet metal looks pretty with a few exceptions. the frame is in great shape with no rust or rot but for the most part the wood is gone. previous owner threw it out as it was no good. should've kept it as templates and guides.
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Old 09-16-2019, 02:30 PM   #4
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Default Re: 1930 cabriolet wood pieces

The Benson center may have what you need in the way of drawings but I don't think wood drawings in total exist for your car.

You can start on MAFFI and look at the drawing available before you contact Benson (and pay money).
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Old 09-16-2019, 03:22 PM   #5
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I sold a spare set of rails awhile back, that I made from originals.


The new ones are 1200. for the pair, so pretty darn expensive.


I may have one more spare set, that would need finishing. you can email me if interested.


where are you located?
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Old 09-16-2019, 03:28 PM   #6
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Buy some, copy them, sell the first ones
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Old 09-16-2019, 04:31 PM   #7
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Default Re: 1930 cabriolet wood pieces

At minimum you will need part numbers A-68030-BR and A-68031-BR for the left and right sides. You will also need many other prints to go with these. These prints are available for purchase from the Benson Library in Dearborn, MI., ...and the part numbers are available from Assembly Drawings there, and some (not all) are available in the Body Parts List books.


One thing I probably should mention to you is these prints are drawn and labeled from an Engineers perspective and not from a Craftsman's perspective. Knowing that going in helps keep you from being frustrated when you receive them due to being hard to read & understand.
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Old 09-17-2019, 02:41 PM   #8
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Being a machinist for the past 22 yrs I've learned how to read many types of prints form Aerospace to napkins. haha.
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Old 09-17-2019, 03:45 PM   #9
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wait till you see what the drawings cost..........
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