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1955cj5 · 07-29-2015, 04:50 PM

Now I remember why I dropped my engineering classes....But thanks for the link..it is interesting...

I just really was hoping someone would take a caliper and measure the width of a tooth on a standard, reasonably new cam gear at the tooth's apex.

I get .109"

1955cj5 · 08-07-2015, 05:55 PM

I received the new standard cam gear today and also the new crank gear...

These are going to make a huge difference...

I was getting about .035" of gear lash before...

I get about .015 difference between old and new for the cam gear teeth, and another .016 difference for the crank gear teeth..

That accounts for about .031 and that leaves about .004 which is right in the middle of the "normal" lash range....

You don't even need to measure to see the difference in the cam gear...

1955cj5 · 08-07-2015, 09:28 PM

I don't know....it had a "Ford" licensed part sticker on it....maybe you can't trust anything or anybody...

Tom Wesenberg · 08-07-2015, 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by 1955cj5

I don't know....it had a "Ford" licensed part sticker on it....maybe you can't trust anything or anybody...

That means nothing as far as quality. It means Ford gets a payment for having their name on the package.

1955cj5 · 08-07-2015, 09:42 PM

So does someone have an NOS OEM perfect timing gear they would like to send me?

What am I supposed to do????

Mike V. Florida · 08-07-2015, 10:22 PM

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Aluminum, brass gears. or just wait until you're ready for the rebuild.

1955cj5 · 08-07-2015, 10:35 PM

This is a done deal.....how about a positive comment?

tbirdtbird · 08-08-2015, 12:13 AM

"This is a done deal.....how about a positive comment?"
OK, a positive comment:
Drive it the way you have it!
And then don't come back and complain about what will inevitably happen, positively!

Tom Wesenberg · 08-08-2015, 04:47 AM

For sure now is the time to change that gear to a better one. I'm surprised anyone would still be selling this style that so easily fails. Think of this gear as a sheet of OSB where you have a bunch of wood chips pressed into the shape of a 4 x 8 "hunk of wood" vs. a real sheet of plywood made from laminated layers for strength.

1955cj5 · 08-08-2015, 09:43 AM

I'll call Bert's this morning and see what they have to say........I've looked at many of the provided links...it seems failures are pretty common....

First, are there any quality fiber gears out there, and is it certain that this one is NOT a quality fiber gear? My old gear looks like layers of fabric...and as you say this new one does not. But it looks just like the one in the Bratton's catalog....

Bert's sells the aluminum gears....

As Tom said, now is the time...

1955cj5 · 08-08-2015, 10:02 AM

OK...Aluminum gear is on it's way.....

And I was going to put the engine together today...

Guess I'll clean the garage....

For what it's worth, Bert's said they get those fiber timing gears from Snyder's....

Tom Wesenberg · 08-08-2015, 01:17 PM

That second picture sure does look like the macerated gear, or dried cow pie composition. I don't have any personal experience with that type, but have seen the failures of others. I've not had a problem with the laminated gear, but the aluminum gear is a very good choice. In fact I bought one at the last swap meet.

1955cj5 · 08-08-2015, 02:01 PM

The gear I have and the Bratton gear look to have the same part number....except the Bratton gear has an "L" after the 2718A...L for laminated no doubt..

Here are some better pictures..I took it off...

1955cj5 · 08-10-2015, 10:06 PM

OK the fiber is out and the alloy is in......

Mike V. Florida · 08-10-2015, 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by 1955cj5

OK the fiber is out and the alloy is in......

GREAT!! Now get out there and drive.

1955cj5 · 08-10-2015, 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike V. Florida

GREAT!! Now get out there and drive.

Might have it together by the weekend.....unless something else comes up!!

08-07-2015, 09:42 PM	#25
1955cj5 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Boise, Idaho Posts: 1,578	Re: Timing gear teeth...?? So does someone have an NOS OEM perfect timing gear they would like to send me? What am I supposed to do???? __________________ Early '29 CCPU that had a 4-speed, but not any more.......in the family since '62

08-07-2015, 10:22 PM	#26
Mike V. Florida Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: South Florida Posts: 14,054	Re: Timing gear teeth...?? Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) Aluminum, brass gears. or just wait until you're ready for the rebuild. __________________ What's right about America is that although we have a mess of problems, we have great capacity - intellect and resources - to do some thing about them. - Henry Ford II

08-07-2015, 10:35 PM	#27
1955cj5 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Boise, Idaho Posts: 1,578	Re: Timing gear teeth...?? This is a done deal.....how about a positive comment? __________________ Early '29 CCPU that had a 4-speed, but not any more.......in the family since '62

08-08-2015, 12:13 AM	#28
tbirdtbird BANNED Join Date: May 2012 Location: inside your RAM Posts: 3,134	Re: Timing gear teeth...?? "This is a done deal.....how about a positive comment?" OK, a positive comment: Drive it the way you have it! And then don't come back and complain about what will inevitably happen, positively! __________________ '31 180A

08-08-2015, 04:47 AM	#29
Tom Wesenberg Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Mpls, MN Posts: 27,582	Re: Timing gear teeth...?? For sure now is the time to change that gear to a better one. I'm surprised anyone would still be selling this style that so easily fails. Think of this gear as a sheet of OSB where you have a bunch of wood chips pressed into the shape of a 4 x 8 "hunk of wood" vs. a real sheet of plywood made from laminated layers for strength.

08-08-2015, 10:02 AM	#31
1955cj5 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Boise, Idaho Posts: 1,578	Re: Timing gear teeth...?? OK...Aluminum gear is on it's way..... And I was going to put the engine together today... Guess I'll clean the garage.... For what it's worth, Bert's said they get those fiber timing gears from Snyder's.... __________________ Early '29 CCPU that had a 4-speed, but not any more.......in the family since '62 Last edited by 1955cj5; 08-08-2015 at 10:17 AM.

08-08-2015, 01:17 PM	#32
Tom Wesenberg Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Mpls, MN Posts: 27,582	Re: Timing gear teeth...?? That second picture sure does look like the macerated gear, or dried cow pie composition. I don't have any personal experience with that type, but have seen the failures of others. I've not had a problem with the laminated gear, but the aluminum gear is a very good choice. In fact I bought one at the last swap meet.