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[Lawrie]

Can anyone nix the car in this old family photo, some of my relatives from way back

[restoman]

From the skirts it looks like a Lincoln Zephyr.

[mercman from oz]

Mystery car is a 1938 Ford Deluxe Fordor Sedan

[A bones]

I'm not able to say, but I will point out what I see. Rear door is suicide, windshield is 2 piece, hood ornament is large, the side of the hood may be ventilated, side trim strip is fluted and thick, and yes the skirt has a positive securement

[ford38v8]

Mercman got it right. No doubt about it. Why is he so damn quick with his answers?

[mercman from oz]

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1938 Ford Deluxe Sedan - Photo taken at a similar angle.

[V8COOPMAN]

Originally Posted by mercman from oz

1938 Ford Deluxe Sedan - Photo taken at a similar angle.

Agreed! '38 DeLuxe. Lincolns have a "teardrop" fender skirt.

Coop

[mercman from oz]

1939 Lincoln Zephyr Sedan. Notice that the Rain Gutter over the Doors on the Lincoln Zephyrs does not extend over the rear Side Window like it does on the Ford. The 1938 and 1939 Lincoln Zephyrs share the same Bodies.

[Terry,OH]

The skirts on the mystery car do appear like Ford skirts, that used a bright hex head bolt on the crest of the skirt to operate a locking mechanism.

[51504bat]

Originally Posted by ford38v8

Mercman got it right. No doubt about it. Why is he so damn quick with his answers?

Being from Australia he's a day ahead of us guys this side of the date line.

[Lawrie]

Thanks,the pic is from my father in-law album., he is deceased,he was at Quardal canal in ww2 in the N Z air force
Thank you Lawrie

[Craig CT]

Hi Lawrie; The side trim on the first photo looks wider with less arch on the rear end than the other photos, Craig.

[ford38v8]

Originally Posted by Craig CT

Hi Lawrie; The side trim on the first photo looks wider with less arch on the rear end than the other photos, Craig.

Yes, it does, so much so that at first I thought it might be a Sloper, but those were Tudors. I believe it is merely a photographic distortion, as the car is definitely a 1938 Ford Fordor Deluxe.
Also, I don't think NZ would have had any Slopers from Austrailia.

[V8COOPMAN]

Originally Posted by ford38v8

Yes, it does, so much so that at first I thought it might be a Sloper, but those were Tudors. I believe it is merely a photographic distortion, as the car is definitely a 1938 Ford Fordor Deluxe.
Also, I don't think NZ would have had any Slopers from Austrailia.

I immediately thought Zephyr, but the shape of that fender skirt ended that. Then I thought 'SLOPER' going by first, distorted glimpse of the curve in that rain gutter. Gotta be a '38 Ford C'dan.

Coop

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[Craig CT]

Originally Posted by ford38v8

Yes, it does, so much so that at first I thought it might be a Sloper, but those were Tudors. I believe it is merely a photographic distortion, as the car is definitely a 1938 Ford Fordor Deluxe.
Also, I don't think NZ would have had any Slopers from Austrailia.

Hi Alan; One thing I wondered, if the trim is different, is would it indicate where the car was made and or if it was made at the beginning or end of it's production year, Craig.

[ford38v8]

Originally Posted by Craig CT

Hi Alan; One thing I wondered, if the trim is different, is would it indicate where the car was made and or if it was made at the beginning or end of it's production year, Craig.

Craig, that works for an I.D. Sometimes, but I don’t think so in this case. Photographic distortion, as can also be seen on the side view of the comparison fordor, with the dazzle of reflection from the side trim.
NZ imported their Fords from Canada in a semi-assembled state. Some dissimilarities between U.S. Fords and Canadian Fords existed, but I haven’t heard of differences in side trim for 1938.

[frnkeore]

I'm surprised that no one noticed that a Zephyr doesn't have a running board to sit on

[STEVE O]

I have to ask, The (similar one that mercman posted) has right side gas filler but appears to be lhd? Just curious. Thanks Steve

[Graeme / New Zealand]

Originally Posted by ford38v8

Craig, that works for an I.D. Sometimes, but I don’t think so in this case. Photographic distortion, as can also be seen on the side view of the comparison fordor, with the dazzle of reflection from the side trim.
NZ imported their Fords from Canada in a semi-assembled state. Some dissimilarities between U.S. Fords and Canadian Fords existed, but I haven’t heard of differences in side trim for 1938.

Absolutely right. Would be NZ assembled at the old FOMOCO at Seaview, Lower Hutt. The plant which shut its doors here around 86 is only about 3km away from me as the crow flies. Our V8's from 36 on came here from the Ford Commonwealth plant, Ontario in CKD form.

GB

[uncle max]

Originally Posted by 51504bat

Being from Australia he's a day ahead of us guys this side of the date line.

We need to email and find out who won the Super Bowl before placing our bets!