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Don Clayton · 03-20-2023, 04:54 PM

Trying to help a friend.
Looking for installation instructions for
installing a Chrysler rack in a 40 ford.
This conversion was popular back in the 1980,s.
My friend needs to know which Chrysler rack
might have been used as his is shot.

blucar · 03-21-2023, 11:55 AM

My advise would be to forget the old school junk yard way of thinking about 'safer, more user friendly' modification to old vehicles. In reality the junk yard harvested parts turn out to be an accident looking for a place to happen.
There are many vendors that make great modern, safe reliable braking and steering components for the older vehicles.
I prefer TCI and/or Fatman for my builds.

TJ · 03-21-2023, 05:06 PM

Why put a Chrysler rack on a car with an axle? Use a 525 Saginaw with a new bracket and it works just fine for an axle car and duplicates the same geometry as the stock steering box.

richard crow · 03-21-2023, 07:01 PM

what do you need it for the 40 steers like a baby carriage. [ old time saying] if it hard to steer something is wrong. may be he has health problems

fordor41 · 03-21-2023, 10:01 PM

I've seen cars with the rack attached to the axle. they say it works fine!

blucar · 03-22-2023, 01:46 PM

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Lets face it guys, there are more Early V8 Fords on the road today that have extensive modifications, than there are stock cars.
I like vehicles that are safe and reliable, therefore I have vehicles that are modified and vehicles that are dead stock.
My '36 Ford is a '36-48, the body is dead stock. the undercarriage is 95% '48 Ford. My '37 pickup is stock bodied, stock frame, '68 engine TCI front clip w/disk brakes, rack pinion steering AOD trans with GM 10 bolt rear axle.
I don't consider my cars to be Hot/Street Rods, I prefer to describe them as Rest-o-Mods.
Actually, about 50% of my cars are dead stock, the balance are modified.

tetanus · 03-22-2023, 02:19 PM

I think he is saying it already has a Chrysler rack and he is trying to figure out what it is so he can get a replacement.

Maybe switch it back to Henry stuff …..

TJ · 03-23-2023, 11:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tetanus

I think he is saying it already has a Chrysler rack and he is trying to figure out what it is so he can get a replacement.

Maybe switch it back to Henry stuff …..

I suspect if that's the case then there should be a part # on the existing rack.

fordor41 · 03-23-2023, 09:25 PM

I lot of people that did the rack conversion used Dodge Omni racks

blucar · 03-24-2023, 11:00 AM

Volari, Gremlin were very common conversions in the '80's. Probably the most common was a Mustang II which was actually a mid-sizel European designed vehicle. Many people confuse the Mustang II with the Mustang which came out after the Mustang II.

38 coupe · 03-24-2023, 05:32 PM

Not trying to offend anyone, but why are we discussing this on the Ford Barn? Isn't the HAMB for hot rod topics?
I agree the original poster has a valid question, but why did we not re-direct that question to a more appropriate forum with more people who can help?

tubman · 03-24-2023, 08:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 38 coupe

Not trying to offend anyone, but why are we discussing this on the Ford Barn? Isn't the HAMB for hot rod topics?
I agree the original poster has a valid question, but why did we not re-direct that question to a more appropriate forum with more people who can help?

I don't think R&P steering is "traditional", so it may not fly there either.

blucar · 03-25-2023, 01:04 PM

I don't quite understand why some of the citizens of the barn insist on directing questions about modifications to EFV8 vehicles over to the HAMB. I would venture a guess that there are probably as many members of the Barn that own modified cars compared to dead stock, as Henry made them cars.
It would appear that some Barn members have forgotten just why the Barn spun off from the EFV8 Club Forum... Yes. it was because the EFV8 Club did not want dialog pertaining to modifications from stock.
I am a member of the Plymouth Owners Club and have contributed to their Forum since 1996. My Thread on the POC about the restoration of my '39 Conv is the most active topic on the Forum with over 35k viewers. The hardliners on the POC have just about ruined the Clubs Forum and in fact caused two groups to spin off forming Plymouth clubs that embrace modified vehicles.

03-20-2023, 04:54 PM	#1
Don Clayton Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2014 Posts: 105	1940 Ford Chrysler Steering Conversion Trying to help a friend. Looking for installation instructions for installing a Chrysler rack in a 40 ford. This conversion was popular back in the 1980,s. My friend needs to know which Chrysler rack might have been used as his is shot.

03-21-2023, 11:55 AM	#2
blucar Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Ventura, CA Posts: 2,464	Re: 1940 Ford Chrysler Steering Conversion My advise would be to forget the old school junk yard way of thinking about 'safer, more user friendly' modification to old vehicles. In reality the junk yard harvested parts turn out to be an accident looking for a place to happen. There are many vendors that make great modern, safe reliable braking and steering components for the older vehicles. I prefer TCI and/or Fatman for my builds. __________________ Bill.... 36 5 win cpe

03-21-2023, 05:06 PM	#3
TJ Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Napa,California Posts: 6,037	Re: 1940 Ford Chrysler Steering Conversion Why put a Chrysler rack on a car with an axle? Use a 525 Saginaw with a new bracket and it works just fine for an axle car and duplicates the same geometry as the stock steering box.

03-21-2023, 07:01 PM	#4
richard crow Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 1,770	Re: 1940 Ford Chrysler Steering Conversion what do you need it for the 40 steers like a baby carriage. [ old time saying] if it hard to steer something is wrong. may be he has health problems

03-21-2023, 10:01 PM	#5
fordor41 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: elmira,ny Posts: 1,517	Re: 1940 Ford Chrysler Steering Conversion I've seen cars with the rack attached to the axle. they say it works fine!

03-22-2023, 01:46 PM	#6
blucar Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Ventura, CA Posts: 2,464	Re: 1940 Ford Chrysler Steering Conversion Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) Lets face it guys, there are more Early V8 Fords on the road today that have extensive modifications, than there are stock cars. I like vehicles that are safe and reliable, therefore I have vehicles that are modified and vehicles that are dead stock. My '36 Ford is a '36-48, the body is dead stock. the undercarriage is 95% '48 Ford. My '37 pickup is stock bodied, stock frame, '68 engine TCI front clip w/disk brakes, rack pinion steering AOD trans with GM 10 bolt rear axle. I don't consider my cars to be Hot/Street Rods, I prefer to describe them as Rest-o-Mods. Actually, about 50% of my cars are dead stock, the balance are modified. __________________ Bill.... 36 5 win cpe Last edited by blucar; 03-22-2023 at 02:00 PM.

03-22-2023, 02:19 PM	#7
tetanus Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Mayville WI Posts: 52	Re: 1940 Ford Chrysler Steering Conversion I think he is saying it already has a Chrysler rack and he is trying to figure out what it is so he can get a replacement. Maybe switch it back to Henry stuff ….. Last edited by tetanus; 03-22-2023 at 02:42 PM.

03-23-2023, 09:25 PM	#9
fordor41 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: elmira,ny Posts: 1,517	Re: 1940 Ford Chrysler Steering Conversion I lot of people that did the rack conversion used Dodge Omni racks

03-24-2023, 11:00 AM	#10
blucar Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Ventura, CA Posts: 2,464	Re: 1940 Ford Chrysler Steering Conversion Volari, Gremlin were very common conversions in the '80's. Probably the most common was a Mustang II which was actually a mid-sizel European designed vehicle. Many people confuse the Mustang II with the Mustang which came out after the Mustang II. __________________ Bill.... 36 5 win cpe

03-24-2023, 05:32 PM	#11
38 coupe Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: South Texas Posts: 1,631	Re: 1940 Ford Chrysler Steering Conversion Not trying to offend anyone, but why are we discussing this on the Ford Barn? Isn't the HAMB for hot rod topics? I agree the original poster has a valid question, but why did we not re-direct that question to a more appropriate forum with more people who can help?

03-25-2023, 01:04 PM	#13
blucar Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Ventura, CA Posts: 2,464	Re: 1940 Ford Chrysler Steering Conversion I don't quite understand why some of the citizens of the barn insist on directing questions about modifications to EFV8 vehicles over to the HAMB. I would venture a guess that there are probably as many members of the Barn that own modified cars compared to dead stock, as Henry made them cars. It would appear that some Barn members have forgotten just why the Barn spun off from the EFV8 Club Forum... Yes. it was because the EFV8 Club did not want dialog pertaining to modifications from stock. I am a member of the Plymouth Owners Club and have contributed to their Forum since 1996. My Thread on the POC about the restoration of my '39 Conv is the most active topic on the Forum with over 35k viewers. The hardliners on the POC have just about ruined the Clubs Forum and in fact caused two groups to spin off forming Plymouth clubs that embrace modified vehicles. __________________ Bill.... 36 5 win cpe