The Ford Barn

V8COOPMAN · 07-28-2023, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Bored&Stroked

Looking fantastic! Looks like one very beautiful and well done car!

Glenn is a tribute to our hobby. Most everything that he undertakes turns-out beautiful, well thought out and well-done.

Coop

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glennpm · 07-28-2023, 12:41 PM

Thanks for the compliments guys!

Regarding, "Most everything that he undertakes turns-out beautiful, well thought out and well-done."

... eventually anyway, but I am persistent :-)

Special thanks to cas3 for his help with the horn rod!!

Glenn

38bill · 07-28-2023, 01:38 PM

For those of you that use Rust-Oleum clear over a Rust-Oleum color coat be sure to test their compatibility first. I have stopped using the Rust-Oleum clear because it will immediately lift and wrinkle the Rust-Oleum paint (and maybe other brands?). They must have changed the product.

PS: Just this weekend my BIL sent me a photo of a project that he was working on and was going to clear it with Rust-Oleum. I warned him about my recent experience so he tested it before spraying the work. Within minutes he called to thank me because it wrinkled and stripped the paint right off the test surface.

glennpm · 07-28-2023, 01:40 PM

Good tip Bill.

Krylon clear works over Rustoleum.

DavidG · 07-28-2023, 05:55 PM

Not to be a wet blanket, but if you do not mask the flat surface in the recess you run the risk of the horn button not grounding out and therefore no horn.

glennpm · 07-29-2023, 05:41 AM

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Hi David,

Yes, I was thinking, "why didn't I mask that area" :-)
I cleaned the paint off using a small wire wheel with my Dremel and also buffed the spring ends, top hat and copper contact too with a Scotch pad.

Glenn

glennpm · 08-01-2023, 02:32 PM

I removed this 36 steering wheel from my 32. Using a 33-34 horn rod, I mounted it on my 40. I really like the improved steering over a Grant wheel I had installed many years ago.

Glenn

V8COOPMAN · 08-01-2023, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by glennpm

I removed this 36 steering wheel from my 32. Using a 33-34 horn rod, I mounted it on my 40. I really like the improved steering over a Grant wheel I had installed many years ago.

Glenn

Glenn ..... What kind of hanging pedals are those that I see in the '40?

Coop

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glennpm · 08-01-2023, 03:52 PM

Hi Dick,

I think they are Ansen but I bought them about 50 years ago! I was actually just looking for literature for them in my files and you asked the question :-)
Looks like I don't have the literature.

I need to modify, shorten the threaded portion, of my clevis's to move the pedals closer to the floor. That's the next project. The 36 wheel is not dished as much as the Grant wheel I had and I need a little more room.

Glenn

deuce_roadster · 08-01-2023, 04:20 PM

Understand that anytime you spray paint you are shooting round droplets of paint through the air, they land on whatever you are painting and under ideal conditions, flow together and make a smooth as glass finish when the droplets dry enough to stop flowing. I control this process using the correct catalyst and if used, reducer for the temperature I am shooting the paint. This is a dance between the elements you have no control over outside of a professional paint booth, and the catalysts you are using. The containers usually have a range of temperatures to use at like 60-75 75-90 etc.
Dries too fast, you get orange peel, or worse, too slow, you get runs. I have been painting cars since the 70s and have a good idea what the brand of paint I use will do and adjust accordingly. Be advised, you can do EVERYTHING correctly and still have a poor outcome, humidity can change, compressor quits. Back in the 1970s I painted a brand x 52 hardtop a beautiful two-toned root beer and cream, Looked stunning, closed the garage doors leaving a gap for the fumes to move out and went into the house. Came back 45 minutes later to look at it and a cat had come into the garage, walked across the trunk lid, top and hood. Got to start over and lost money on that job. Some lessons you learn the hard way. I had the good luck to have professional friends mentor me over the years. Using spray cans is a gamble at best. At least get spray cans that put out a fan shape spray pattern instead of a round circle of paint. Actually, All painting is a gamble between what you can and cannot control, you just try to have the odds in your favor.

V8COOPMAN · 08-01-2023, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by glennpm

Hi Dick,

I think they are Ansen but I bought them about 50 years ago! I was actually just looking for literature for them in my files and you asked the question :-)
Looks like I don't have the literature.
Glenn

Glenn ...... I kind'a figured they were Ansens from the design of the pads. They quit making those eons ago. I guess you've had that '40 for a long, LONG time.

Coop

glennpm · 08-02-2023, 05:54 AM

... and Ansen's they are!

Thanks Coop!

glennpm · 08-02-2023, 06:01 AM

"All painting is a gamble between what you can and cannot control, you just try to have the odds in your favor."

That's for sure!

I repainted the driver's door years ago when my 40 was black. It came out great. A few days later the neighbor's cat got in my garage, tried jumping up to get in, and left deep scratches on it :-(

Als48 · 08-02-2023, 08:54 AM

And don't forget bugs! Years ago a friend and I painted his '61 C... a beautiful royal blue. It came out really nice, except the garage we were using was not sealed off and the bugs got in. Next day It had the little critters scattered all over the car and we had to redo it.

Al H

07-28-2023, 12:41 PM	#22
glennpm Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Wiscasset, Maine Posts: 1,981	Re: Painting finishing help needed Thanks for the compliments guys! Regarding, "Most everything that he undertakes turns-out beautiful, well thought out and well-done." ... eventually anyway, but I am persistent :-) Special thanks to cas3 for his help with the horn rod!! Glenn

07-28-2023, 01:38 PM	#23
38bill Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Minnesota Posts: 1,166	Re: Painting finishing help needed For those of you that use Rust-Oleum clear over a Rust-Oleum color coat be sure to test their compatibility first. I have stopped using the Rust-Oleum clear because it will immediately lift and wrinkle the Rust-Oleum paint (and maybe other brands?). They must have changed the product. PS: Just this weekend my BIL sent me a photo of a project that he was working on and was going to clear it with Rust-Oleum. I warned him about my recent experience so he tested it before spraying the work. Within minutes he called to thank me because it wrinkled and stripped the paint right off the test surface.

07-28-2023, 01:40 PM	#24
glennpm Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Wiscasset, Maine Posts: 1,981	Re: Painting finishing help needed Good tip Bill. Krylon clear works over Rustoleum.

07-28-2023, 05:55 PM	#25
DavidG Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: southeastern Michigan Posts: 10,101	Re: Painting finishing help needed Not to be a wet blanket, but if you do not mask the flat surface in the recess you run the risk of the horn button not grounding out and therefore no horn.

07-29-2023, 05:41 AM	#26
glennpm Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Wiscasset, Maine Posts: 1,981	Re: Painting finishing help needed Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) Hi David, Yes, I was thinking, "why didn't I mask that area" :-) I cleaned the paint off using a small wire wheel with my Dremel and also buffed the spring ends, top hat and copper contact too with a Scotch pad. Glenn

08-01-2023, 02:32 PM	#27
glennpm Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Wiscasset, Maine Posts: 1,981	Re: Painting finishing help needed I removed this 36 steering wheel from my 32. Using a 33-34 horn rod, I mounted it on my 40. I really like the improved steering over a Grant wheel I had installed many years ago. Glenn Last edited by glennpm; 08-01-2023 at 02:40 PM.

08-01-2023, 03:52 PM	#29
glennpm Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Wiscasset, Maine Posts: 1,981	Re: Painting finishing help needed Hi Dick, I think they are Ansen but I bought them about 50 years ago! I was actually just looking for literature for them in my files and you asked the question :-) Looks like I don't have the literature. I need to modify, shorten the threaded portion, of my clevis's to move the pedals closer to the floor. That's the next project. The 36 wheel is not dished as much as the Grant wheel I had and I need a little more room. Glenn

08-01-2023, 04:20 PM	#30
deuce_roadster Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Shelton, WA Posts: 3,800	Re: Painting finishing help needed Understand that anytime you spray paint you are shooting round droplets of paint through the air, they land on whatever you are painting and under ideal conditions, flow together and make a smooth as glass finish when the droplets dry enough to stop flowing. I control this process using the correct catalyst and if used, reducer for the temperature I am shooting the paint. This is a dance between the elements you have no control over outside of a professional paint booth, and the catalysts you are using. The containers usually have a range of temperatures to use at like 60-75 75-90 etc. Dries too fast, you get orange peel, or worse, too slow, you get runs. I have been painting cars since the 70s and have a good idea what the brand of paint I use will do and adjust accordingly. Be advised, you can do EVERYTHING correctly and still have a poor outcome, humidity can change, compressor quits. Back in the 1970s I painted a brand x 52 hardtop a beautiful two-toned root beer and cream, Looked stunning, closed the garage doors leaving a gap for the fumes to move out and went into the house. Came back 45 minutes later to look at it and a cat had come into the garage, walked across the trunk lid, top and hood. Got to start over and lost money on that job. Some lessons you learn the hard way. I had the good luck to have professional friends mentor me over the years. Using spray cans is a gamble at best. At least get spray cans that put out a fan shape spray pattern instead of a round circle of paint. Actually, All painting is a gamble between what you can and cannot control, you just try to have the odds in your favor.

08-02-2023, 05:54 AM	#32
glennpm Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Wiscasset, Maine Posts: 1,981	Re: Painting finishing help needed ... and Ansen's they are! Thanks Coop!

08-02-2023, 06:01 AM	#33
glennpm Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Wiscasset, Maine Posts: 1,981	Re: Painting finishing help needed "All painting is a gamble between what you can and cannot control, you just try to have the odds in your favor." That's for sure! I repainted the driver's door years ago when my 40 was black. It came out great. A few days later the neighbor's cat got in my garage, tried jumping up to get in, and left deep scratches on it :-(

08-02-2023, 08:54 AM	#34
Als48 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2020 Location: Paducah Ky Posts: 279	Re: Painting finishing help needed And don't forget bugs! Years ago a friend and I painted his '61 C... a beautiful royal blue. It came out really nice, except the garage we were using was not sealed off and the bugs got in. Next day It had the little critters scattered all over the car and we had to redo it. Al H