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04-11-2019, 07:35 AM | #21 |
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Re: 35 Steering Column Drop Break-off Bolt Removal
Use vise grips on the threaded shank and twist it out little by little until you get a good grip on it. Slot idea works good too.
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04-11-2019, 07:36 AM | #22 | |
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04-11-2019, 08:11 AM | #23 |
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Re: 35 Steering Column Drop Break-off Bolt Removal
Guys....please keep this post on track with suggestions for Jeff (VeryTangled) on how he might attack removing that break-off bolt holding the column drop/steering column to the dash. If you want to "banter" on other subjects, you could always use PM's.
The damaged column drop, that I posted pictures of in an earlier reply, will be properly repaired to be as good as original....but NOT by using JB Weld.
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04-11-2019, 09:39 AM | #24 |
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Re: 35 Steering Column Drop Break-off Bolt Removal
So, did you get it out yet?
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04-11-2019, 12:55 PM | #25 |
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Re: 35 Steering Column Drop Break-off Bolt Removal
I bought this at a swap meet 30-year's ago, not having a clue what it was used for? It said K.R. Wilson on it so I was hoping it was some kind of Ford tool? I'm pretty sure its for taking out the anti-theft bolt. If I turn the outer nut it pushes those teeth forward and they would bite into the broken bolt. Then the bigger nut rotates the teeth which would back the bolt out. I've never tried it. I've never seen another tool like it.
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04-11-2019, 01:29 PM | #26 |
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04-11-2019, 05:13 PM | #27 | |
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A left handed drill bit might take one of those bolts out? We used them for taking broken bolts out at work. You had to drill them out anyway for the easy-out. A lot of times the counter clockwise drilling unscrews the broken bolt right out and you never need the easy-out. Except, this is not a broken thread but a tightened bolt so its not coming loose as easily. We also welded nuts to the broken bolts if they were broke off in cast iron. A MIG weld will not stick to the cast iron and the heat helps break loose stuck threads. I smear anti-seize on everything so the next guy will be able to get it a part. |
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04-11-2019, 06:05 PM | #28 |
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Re: 35 Steering Column Drop Break-off Bolt Removal
I think tomorrow is the day for the serious attempts. I don't want to start off on the wrong foot on this job.
It's one more day that I wish I had all the KRW tools to work on these cars! That one flathead fever posted looks like it would do the job lickety split! Edit to add 24 hours later: After closer reading (thanks for the tip JM) I realize this tool is for another part of the drop, not the mounting bolt I'm after. Alas, still a very cool piece of engineering!
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04-11-2019, 10:01 PM | #29 |
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I think I would try the slot idea first and if that does not work I'd use an easy-out. I've had good success cutting screwdriver slots with one of those real narrow Dremal cutoff wheels. You need to definitely where goggles because the cutoff wheels are pretty fragile and easily turn into eyeball shrapnel. Get a tight fitting flat bladed screwdriver that has the built in spot on the shank to put a wrench on so you have some twisting leverage. One hand can forces the blade tight into the slot so it doesn't strip it out the slot. The other hand turns the wrench which reals it loose.
When you buy your screwdrivers make sure they have the spot to put a box wrench on them. Snap-On screwdrivers are the best, they will take out screws others screwdrivers will not but at $20.00 to $30.00 "each" its pretty hard to justify buying them for occasional home use. The ones I have I bought used. Here is a photo of some William brand screwdrivers on Amazon. They have the spot to put a box wrench on the shank next to the handle. It makes a big difference having that wrench on there doing the twisting. They also have the rough finish on their tips which make them grab better. The other thing you can try is an impact driver to break the bolt loose. The problem with them is half the time they work and the other half they strip out the slot. It depends on the hardness of the screw or bolt. Last edited by Flathead Fever; 04-11-2019 at 10:39 PM. |
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Flathead Fever, thanks for the helpful ideas.
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04-13-2019, 12:20 PM | #31 |
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Hi Everyone. Problem solved, it really wasn't that hard. Once I got a grip that I was happy with, I turned it a little both ways. It felt as if the tool was slipping on the bolt, but it was actually turning! Yippee.
Thanks for all the helpful suggestions! The penny turned out to be 1948.
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04-13-2019, 01:40 PM | #32 |
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Re: 35 Steering Column Drop Break-off Bolt Removal
it appears that you would agree if i said "you can never have too many vise grips" !
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04-13-2019, 02:51 PM | #33 |
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I am extremely lucky to have excellent access to the tool room and shop floor at a college. Our hammer collection is jaw dropping.
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04-14-2019, 06:02 AM | #34 |
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Just removed a cut off bolt from a 1936 complete assembly - it will be at fitchburg ! kerk
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04-14-2019, 06:06 AM | #35 |
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Way to go Jeff!! That's a nice collection of Vise Grips!!
I'm thinking the date of that wheatback penny could have been a significant date for the previous owner; i.e. birthday, anniversary, etc. We did things like that for good luck. Sorta like we did as kids by putting pennies in our loafers.
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03-10-2023, 02:31 PM | #36 |
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Re: 35 Steering Column Drop Break-off Bolt Removal
Just for purposes of posterity here is a photo of a small nut tig welded to the original column drop bolt to remove the bolt.
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03-10-2023, 03:21 PM | #37 |
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Re: 35 Steering Column Drop Break-off Bolt Removal
Now what, it's out. how many of us actually use a break off bolt to reassemble. I know I didn't.
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03-10-2023, 06:39 PM | #38 |
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Re: 35 Steering Column Drop Break-off Bolt Removal
since you got it out, cut a slot in it with a hacksaw, then re-use it, get it tight put some puddy in slot; and don't tell anyone
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03-10-2023, 09:06 PM | #39 |
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Re: 35 Steering Column Drop Break-off Bolt Removal
Here’s how it’s done.
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