The Ford Barn

ronn · 06-08-2016, 02:44 PM

no surprise with NY taxes................ most companies headed south years ago- down south to NC, etc. where taxes are far more favorable.

H. L. Chauvin · 06-08-2016, 03:24 PM

Hi ronn,

And if they decide to venture a little further south, much cheaper labor could enhance their even far more favorable taxes.

I wish them well in Florida.

jack99 · 06-08-2016, 04:46 PM

It is very difficult to operate a business in NY State. With the recent increase in minimum wage and the always high NY tax structure many companies have left NY for greener ($$$$) pastures. Endicott Johnson shoes, Grumman Aircraft , Zippo Lighters and many more. Lots of recent corruption recently exposed with very high ranking NY elected (google them) who fleece the taxpayers and then receive minimum sentences, and still collect their pensions. NO surprise Macs are relocating.

Classiccanuck · 06-08-2016, 04:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oldtruck30

http://www.buffalonews.com/business/...ember-20160608

LOL! 52 employees? really? last time I was there 3 customers and myself waited over 45 mins before anyone came out from the back to serve us, that was after we called their 1-800 and told them that there were 4 customers up front waiting almost an hour, they weren't amused. "Customer service" it seems business is forgetting the reason why they exist.

H. L. Chauvin · 06-08-2016, 04:59 PM

FWIW:

Knew a Contractor years ago who told me he hired a Superintendent who hated Chevrolets & loved Fords.

Then one day he won a Chevrolet pickup at a Church fair raffle.

He drove it for about 150,000 miles with no problems until one day he was late for work.

Told his boss he had a flat ..... plus, he had to add ..... you know, anything can happen with a damn Chevrolet.

Pepsi, Coke, Sprite ...... Bud, Miller .... Blondes, Brunettes ...... just choices ..... never had a problem with MAC's ...... good catalog .... some would get out of Dodge just because of the new NY Restroom laws .... Freedom.

Capt Quahog · 06-08-2016, 05:08 PM

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When ordering a few items from that outfit, I was surprised to find them operating out of New York state. Figured that any business managed with an ounce of common sense would have bailed out of the northeast region long ago. It's a contest as to which is the worst business unfriendly, tax rip-off, governmental monstrosity state . . . Choose one or more . . . New York, Connecticut, Workers Paradise of Vermont, Crumbling Rust Pennsylvania, Masshole-a-chusetts, Perpetually Dank Maine, Bankrupt Lower Michigan or ?

My limited online Model A Ford parts purchase experience with MAC's was quite positive. Bought several items at the same time which was sent in three different packages. Cost of shipping was around eight-bucks ($8.00) combined. The aluminum roof trim piece was shipped in a heavy 5-foot long tube Fine item - Good deal!

Have been planning to purchase a few more oddball items and was going to check with MAC's first.

700rpm · 06-08-2016, 05:54 PM

Well, it's unfortunate to lose any Model A supplier, even one that doesn't run their business very well. I used to buy from Mac's, when it first started. It seemed to head downhill under the new owners. The hobby has become much more sophisticated and informed about quality, and the price of a part needs to reflect that quality. That's just basic business. We buyers have said many times that we will pay more for accurate and reliable reproduction parts when we can get them.

Maybe Mac's will rethink their business plan in new quarters.

H. L. Chauvin · 06-08-2016, 06:00 PM

Early this morning I had looked to see if Amazon.com had Model A Parts with free shipping for sale under "Prime".

None found; however, listed further down below, (not Amazon), maybe paragraph no 3 or so, on the Amazon's site was an ad for MAC'S ..... did not check the address for this MAC's.

China is presently buying lots of major oil sites and oil businesses for billions in our immediate area ..... Wal-Mart Sales are paying off ...... at the rate we are advancing, appears we could soon be offered a Free Set Chop Sticks with our future orders Model A 600W ...... moving on up.

Y-Blockhead · 06-08-2016, 06:38 PM

I have bought items from MAC's in the past but they are definitely aren't my first choice. But I will say, IMO, they have the best Tech info in their online catalog over any of the other vendors.

Example; http://www.macsautoparts.com/assets/.../A10000AHO.pdf

mshmodela · 06-08-2016, 06:44 PM

Mac's may have not treated their customers the best but their paper catalog was the very best out there and their web site was equal the best.

C26Pinelake · 06-08-2016, 07:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mshmodela

Mac's may have not treated their customers the best but their paper catalog was the very best out there and their web site was equal my the best.

And not surprisingly not one of the complainers refused to accept or returned their catalogue. Wayne

H. L. Chauvin · 06-08-2016, 07:45 PM

Had no idea MAC's is so close to Orlando and Disney in Florida.

Maybe some would like to think just a little on the positive side:

Wife would never miss a Disney visit with Goofy & Mickey with the grand kids ... or even mind a short, friendly strategic Model A visit at MAC's on way home ....... save lots on shipping a few Model A "heavy" parts or "large" parts like fenders ..... win-win situation .... everybody could smile and get happy quick.

C26Pinelake · 06-08-2016, 08:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by forever4

The best online tech info, and the best catalog??

Wow, I am not feeling that at all!

What catalogue fo you feel is better?? Wayne

Y-Blockhead · 06-08-2016, 08:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by forever4

The best online tech info, and the best catalog??

Wow, I am not feeling that at all!

Please don't paraphrase. I said "Best tech info in their online catalog over any of the other vendors". Try looking at Bratton's or Bert's for installation instructions on parts. They don't have many...

It really helps a new guy to have that reference. Just today there was someone asking about an Alternator wire connections. MAC's has the schematic and info. Bratton's, Berts and Snyder's don't.

Installation of Alternator from MAC's online catalog.
http://www.macsautoparts.com/assets/.../A10000AHO.pdf

So yes. I stand by what I wrote.

jax55 · 06-08-2016, 08:57 PM

I have not been to Eckler's Florida location in a number of years, but if they have not expanded their building... I think it will be difficult to add the Model A parts to their shelves. I bought a lot of parts for my 55 Chevy there, and really had no problems.
The Mac's deal was something else...

eagle · 06-08-2016, 09:59 PM

I've never had a problem with Macs. Ordered tons of parts over the years. Shipping is slow from New York to here, no matter what company it comes from. I can get a part from Florida quicker, even though its farther. Some people would complain about being hung with a new rope...

C26Pinelake · 06-08-2016, 10:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eagle

I've never had a problem with Macs. Ordered tons of parts over the years. Shipping is slow from New York to here, no matter what company it comes from. I can get a part from Florida quicker, even though its farther. Some people would complain about being hung with a new rope...

You and I and many, many others! A great analogy! Wayne

WestCoast · 06-08-2016, 11:26 PM

im not surprised, with there outrageous shipping costs

H. L. Chauvin · 06-09-2016, 12:02 AM

Per Mr. Eagle's "new rope" reply #33, i always find it hilarious to read Amazon.com's "One (1) Star Reviews", like:

A guy buys some metal tool object shipped in two (2) separate metal pieces in the same box that came with two (2) bolts, two (2) nuts, two (2) washers, and a diagram with written instructions.

His One Star Review:

"Assembly instructions were very poor and unclear. i sent it back. Don't waste your money."

ronn · 06-09-2016, 04:33 AM

I agree with you Y block, great catalogue and their pricing hasnt been bad. the problems
seem to be with shipping and service.
When Ecklers bought them, no improvements seem to have been made. There are only so many model A Ford parts companies that can stay alive in this "cottage" industry and most on here seem to prefer the other companies.
I too used to buy from Macs, but Snyders and Mike's seem to have much more courteous service and nice to get your order in a week and not bits and pieces over 3-4 weeks.
In any case, we've been lucky to have choices, which may not be in the future.

06-08-2016, 02:44 PM	#21
ronn Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: NNNNNNNNJJJJJJJJJJ Posts: 6,794	Re: Macs closing no surprise with NY taxes................ most companies headed south years ago- down south to NC, etc. where taxes are far more favorable.

06-08-2016, 03:24 PM	#22
H. L. Chauvin Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 4,179	Re: Macs closing Hi ronn, And if they decide to venture a little further south, much cheaper labor could enhance their even far more favorable taxes. I wish them well in Florida.

06-08-2016, 04:46 PM	#23
jack99 Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Bridgehampton, NY Posts: 125	Re: Macs closing It is very difficult to operate a business in NY State. With the recent increase in minimum wage and the always high NY tax structure many companies have left NY for greener ($$$$) pastures. Endicott Johnson shoes, Grumman Aircraft , Zippo Lighters and many more. Lots of recent corruption recently exposed with very high ranking NY elected (google them) who fleece the taxpayers and then receive minimum sentences, and still collect their pensions. NO surprise Macs are relocating.

06-08-2016, 04:59 PM	#25
H. L. Chauvin Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 4,179	Re: Macs closing FWIW: Knew a Contractor years ago who told me he hired a Superintendent who hated Chevrolets & loved Fords. Then one day he won a Chevrolet pickup at a Church fair raffle. He drove it for about 150,000 miles with no problems until one day he was late for work. Told his boss he had a flat ..... plus, he had to add ..... you know, anything can happen with a damn Chevrolet. Pepsi, Coke, Sprite ...... Bud, Miller .... Blondes, Brunettes ...... just choices ..... never had a problem with MAC's ...... good catalog .... some would get out of Dodge just because of the new NY Restroom laws .... Freedom. Last edited by H. L. Chauvin; 06-08-2016 at 05:09 PM. Reason: typo

06-08-2016, 05:08 PM	#26
Capt Quahog Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: Barren windswept mountain somewhere in bleak Northeastern Pennsylvania Posts: 294	Re: Macs closing Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) When ordering a few items from that outfit, I was surprised to find them operating out of New York state. Figured that any business managed with an ounce of common sense would have bailed out of the northeast region long ago. It's a contest as to which is the worst business unfriendly, tax rip-off, governmental monstrosity state . . . Choose one or more . . . New York, Connecticut, Workers Paradise of Vermont, Crumbling Rust Pennsylvania, Masshole-a-chusetts, Perpetually Dank Maine, Bankrupt Lower Michigan or ? My limited online Model A Ford parts purchase experience with MAC's was quite positive. Bought several items at the same time which was sent in three different packages. Cost of shipping was around eight-bucks ($8.00) combined. The aluminum roof trim piece was shipped in a heavy 5-foot long tube Fine item - Good deal! Have been planning to purchase a few more oddball items and was going to check with MAC's first. Last edited by Capt Quahog; 06-08-2016 at 05:19 PM.

06-08-2016, 05:54 PM	#27
700rpm Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 5,906	Re: Macs closing Well, it's unfortunate to lose any Model A supplier, even one that doesn't run their business very well. I used to buy from Mac's, when it first started. It seemed to head downhill under the new owners. The hobby has become much more sophisticated and informed about quality, and the price of a part needs to reflect that quality. That's just basic business. We buyers have said many times that we will pay more for accurate and reliable reproduction parts when we can get them. Maybe Mac's will rethink their business plan in new quarters. __________________ Ray Horton, Portland, OR As you go through life, keep your eye on the donut, not the hole.

06-08-2016, 06:00 PM	#28
H. L. Chauvin Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 4,179	Re: Macs closing Early this morning I had looked to see if Amazon.com had Model A Parts with free shipping for sale under "Prime". None found; however, listed further down below, (not Amazon), maybe paragraph no 3 or so, on the Amazon's site was an ad for MAC'S ..... did not check the address for this MAC's. China is presently buying lots of major oil sites and oil businesses for billions in our immediate area ..... Wal-Mart Sales are paying off ...... at the rate we are advancing, appears we could soon be offered a Free Set Chop Sticks with our future orders Model A 600W ...... moving on up.

06-08-2016, 06:38 PM	#29
Y-Blockhead Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Redondo Beach, CA Posts: 5,849	Re: Macs closing I have bought items from MAC's in the past but they are definitely aren't my first choice. But I will say, IMO, they have the best Tech info in their online catalog over any of the other vendors. Example; http://www.macsautoparts.com/assets/.../A10000AHO.pdf Last edited by Y-Blockhead; 06-08-2016 at 11:00 PM.

06-08-2016, 06:44 PM	#30
mshmodela Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Cleveland, Ohio Posts: 2,763	Re: Macs closing Mac's may have not treated their customers the best but their paper catalog was the very best out there and their web site was equal the best. __________________ -Mike Late 31' Ford Model A Tudor, Miss Daisy I don't work on cars --I'm learning about my Model A. Cleveland, Ohio Last edited by mshmodela; 06-08-2016 at 08:11 PM.

06-08-2016, 07:45 PM	#32
H. L. Chauvin Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 4,179	Re: Macs closing Had no idea MAC's is so close to Orlando and Disney in Florida. Maybe some would like to think just a little on the positive side: Wife would never miss a Disney visit with Goofy & Mickey with the grand kids ... or even mind a short, friendly strategic Model A visit at MAC's on way home ....... save lots on shipping a few Model A "heavy" parts or "large" parts like fenders ..... win-win situation .... everybody could smile and get happy quick.

06-08-2016, 08:57 PM	#35
jax55 Senior Member Join Date: May 2014 Location: Santa Barbara, Ca Posts: 329	Re: Macs closing I have not been to Eckler's Florida location in a number of years, but if they have not expanded their building... I think it will be difficult to add the Model A parts to their shelves. I bought a lot of parts for my 55 Chevy there, and really had no problems. The Mac's deal was something else...

06-08-2016, 09:59 PM	#36
eagle Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Eagle Bend, MN Posts: 2,025	Re: Macs closing I've never had a problem with Macs. Ordered tons of parts over the years. Shipping is slow from New York to here, no matter what company it comes from. I can get a part from Florida quicker, even though its farther. Some people would complain about being hung with a new rope... __________________ "There are some that can destroy an anvil with a teaspoon and shouldn't be allowed to touch anything resembling a tool."

06-08-2016, 11:26 PM	#38
WestCoast Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: oroville calif Posts: 893	Re: Macs closing im not surprised, with there outrageous shipping costs

06-09-2016, 12:02 AM	#39
H. L. Chauvin Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 4,179	Re: Macs closing Per Mr. Eagle's "new rope" reply #33, i always find it hilarious to read Amazon.com's "One (1) Star Reviews", like: A guy buys some metal tool object shipped in two (2) separate metal pieces in the same box that came with two (2) bolts, two (2) nuts, two (2) washers, and a diagram with written instructions. His One Star Review: "Assembly instructions were very poor and unclear. i sent it back. Don't waste your money."

06-09-2016, 04:33 AM	#40
ronn Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: NNNNNNNNJJJJJJJJJJ Posts: 6,794	Re: Macs closing I agree with you Y block, great catalogue and their pricing hasnt been bad. the problems seem to be with shipping and service. When Ecklers bought them, no improvements seem to have been made. There are only so many model A Ford parts companies that can stay alive in this "cottage" industry and most on here seem to prefer the other companies. I too used to buy from Macs, but Snyders and Mike's seem to have much more courteous service and nice to get your order in a week and not bits and pieces over 3-4 weeks. In any case, we've been lucky to have choices, which may not be in the future.