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Macdozer · 07-07-2016, 04:20 PM

On my 1936 ford with 59 ab engine I installed a solenoid with the push button on the top of it. When I use this button things work fine, but when inside the car and I use the button on the dash the starter stays engaged and the engine will keep turning over until I disconnect the battery. Or it just clicks and nothing happens.

I checked the button and it works fine.

Any ideas on what could be the issue?

JSeery · 07-07-2016, 04:32 PM

The button should be just a ground to the solenoid. Did you try just grounding the solenoid at the terminal? Use a short piece of wire and ground the small center terminal to ground and see what happens. If the problem still exist you have a bad solenoid or an incorrect solenoid you your car. If it works ok at the solenoid then the push button is defective in some way.

Lawson Cox · 07-07-2016, 05:18 PM

THE PUSH BUTTON GOES ON THE BOTTOM OF THE SOLENOID, NOT THE TOP.
Didn't mean to yell at you. When you push the button, it raises a copper plate that completes the circuit, release it and the copper plate or bar falls back down and breaks the circuit. (Or at least that is the way all of them I have ever seen work.)

Reisterstown Ray · 07-07-2016, 05:25 PM

I always thought that the push button on the bottom of the solenoid was a great idea. Being in the engine compartment was real handy. RR

adileo · 07-07-2016, 05:56 PM

Did you just put solinoid in? That happened to me and or wound up I over tightened the nuts on the solinoid

russcc · 07-07-2016, 06:09 PM

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As already noted. On the bottom is on target. Greatest invention since sliced bread to turn over the engine with you head under the hood.

Macdozer · 07-10-2016, 12:30 PM

Here is what I have , bought it already assembled

I think top and bottom got mixed up.

Does anyone know where to buy a good quality one, this one seems pretty cheap.

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JSeery · 07-10-2016, 01:51 PM

Use a meter to check the continuity from the center post to the two side post. One should have continuity and one should not. The side with continuity is the battery side and the one without is the starter side. If no continuity it is the wrong type of relay.

sunshine · 07-10-2016, 02:03 PM

I bet when you turn the starter solinoid over and mount it your starter button won't stick any more. Sunshine

Bob C · 07-10-2016, 02:03 PM

There are nine different solenoid circuits, I think #2 is the one you want.

Bob

Ken/Alabama · 07-10-2016, 02:54 PM

Make sure the cables are connected to the correct post. One of them should be marked Batt.

JSeery · 07-10-2016, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Ken/Alabama

Make sure the cables are connected to the correct post. One of them should be marked Batt.

I agree, that's why I suggested checking it with a meter to be sure

Kube · 07-10-2016, 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sunshine

I bet when you turn the starter solinoid over and mount it your starter button won't stick any more. Sunshine

It does not work with gravity. That "connection plate" within is under spring pressure.
My guess is the solenoid is either incorrect for this application or wired incorrectly as jseery has eluded to.

Kube · 07-10-2016, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by russcc

As already noted. On the bottom is on target. Greatest invention since sliced bread to turn over the engine with you head under the hood.

Yeah, a great invention. More commonly referred to as "the dead man's switch".

jack orchard · 07-10-2016, 03:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sunshine

I bet when you turn the starter solinoid over and mount it your starter button won't stick any more. Sunshine

I agree. Wired backwards.

slowforty · 07-10-2016, 08:12 PM

I bought one of those from E bay. It worked for a while and then the starter would engage by itself. Very disconcerting.A sharp rap with a wrench would solve the problem. Later I bought a new Solenoid from a better quality supplier. I took the old solenoid apart and it was typical Chinese Quality. But now i have about 15 feet of copper wire to use.

07-07-2016, 04:20 PM	#1
Macdozer Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Central NH Posts: 192	Starter button On my 1936 ford with 59 ab engine I installed a solenoid with the push button on the top of it. When I use this button things work fine, but when inside the car and I use the button on the dash the starter stays engaged and the engine will keep turning over until I disconnect the battery. Or it just clicks and nothing happens. I checked the button and it works fine. Any ideas on what could be the issue?

07-07-2016, 05:18 PM	#3
Lawson Cox Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Above the gnat line in Georgia Posts: 7,009	Re: Starter button THE PUSH BUTTON GOES ON THE BOTTOM OF THE SOLENOID, NOT THE TOP. Didn't mean to yell at you. When you push the button, it raises a copper plate that completes the circuit, release it and the copper plate or bar falls back down and breaks the circuit. (Or at least that is the way all of them I have ever seen work.) __________________ Life is like a roll of toilet paper. The closer to the end, the faster it goes. It is better to be seen, than viewed. "We sleep safe in our beds because rough men stand ready in the night to visit violence on those who would do us harm".

07-07-2016, 05:25 PM	#4
Reisterstown Ray Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 52	Re: Starter button I always thought that the push button on the bottom of the solenoid was a great idea. Being in the engine compartment was real handy. RR

07-07-2016, 05:56 PM	#5
adileo Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: New Jersey Posts: 1,772	Re: Starter button Did you just put solinoid in? That happened to me and or wound up I over tightened the nuts on the solinoid

07-07-2016, 06:09 PM	#6
russcc Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 2,871	Re: Starter button Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) As already noted. On the bottom is on target. Greatest invention since sliced bread to turn over the engine with you head under the hood.

07-07-2016, 04:32 PM	#2
JSeery Member Emeritus Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Wichita KS Posts: 16,132	Re: Starter button The button should be just a ground to the solenoid. Did you try just grounding the solenoid at the terminal? Use a short piece of wire and ground the small center terminal to ground and see what happens. If the problem still exist you have a bad solenoid or an incorrect solenoid you your car. If it works ok at the solenoid then the push button is defective in some way.

07-10-2016, 12:30 PM	#7
Macdozer Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Central NH Posts: 192	Re: Starter button Here is what I have , bought it already assembled I think top and bottom got mixed up. Does anyone know where to buy a good quality one, this one seems pretty cheap. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

07-10-2016, 01:51 PM	#8
JSeery Member Emeritus Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Wichita KS Posts: 16,132	Re: Starter button Use a meter to check the continuity from the center post to the two side post. One should have continuity and one should not. The side with continuity is the battery side and the one without is the starter side. If no continuity it is the wrong type of relay.

07-10-2016, 02:03 PM	#9
sunshine Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: SUNSHINE MD. Posts: 318	Re: Starter button I bet when you turn the starter solinoid over and mount it your starter button won't stick any more. Sunshine

07-10-2016, 02:54 PM	#11
Ken/Alabama Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Alabama Posts: 3,261	Re: Starter button Make sure the cables are connected to the correct post. One of them should be marked Batt.

07-10-2016, 08:12 PM	#16
slowforty Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Tinley Park Ill Posts: 1,061	Re: Starter button I bought one of those from E bay. It worked for a while and then the starter would engage by itself. Very disconcerting.A sharp rap with a wrench would solve the problem. Later I bought a new Solenoid from a better quality supplier. I took the old solenoid apart and it was typical Chinese Quality. But now i have about 15 feet of copper wire to use.