Black wheels, blackwall tires, black car.

[jkcrosson]

I am considering painting my wheels black. I am tired of the vermillion red wheels on a 29 tudor. That would leave me with a black car, black wheels and blackwall tires. Anyone have any pictures of a completely black tudor or any model a for that matter. I have found a few searching the web but most have a color variation be it body, whitewalls or wheels. What is everyone's opinion.

[Jim Boehmke]

here's my '31

[jkcrosson]

Originally Posted by JimBoehmke

here's my '31

I must have missed it.

[Jim Boehmke]

second try for pic

[jkcrosson]

I like it. My paint doesn't look as good as yours but I think will be fine.

[Russ/40]

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Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm, that's the way they should look! I just love ALL black.

[Mort]

That looks very nice!!!

[Steve Plucker]

Check out me and my restored 1929 Standard Coupe with Black wheels, Black tires and Black body on my website...As Johnny Cash said..."It came from the factory that way"! (From "One peice at a time") even before I restored it.

Pluck

[steve s]

Here's mine with and without whitewalls, and, some years ago, with its wheels red. I really like the black better. Whitewalls are a whole other controversy

Steve

[Roadster62]

BLACK on BLACK and BLACK sounds like a great plan! DON'T even think of anything other than blackwall tires.

Originally Posted by jkcrosson

I am considering painting my wheels black. I am tired of the vermillion red wheels on a 29 tudor. That would leave me with a black car, black wheels and blackwall tires. Anyone have any pictures of a completely black tudor or any model a for that matter. I have found a few searching the web but most have a color variation be it body, whitewalls or wheels. What is everyone's opinion.

[jkcrosson]

Originally Posted by steve s

Here's mine with and without whitewalls, and, some years ago, with its wheels red. I really like the black better. Whitewalls are a whole other controversy

Steve

I'll not even approach the whitewall controversy. I'm a blackwall fan. Ya'll are making it real easy for me to paint my wheels black.

[Great Lakes Greg]

I am not up on pinstripeing, but you may have some subtle color options there to break up the black if you wish. I'm in with the rest. All black looks nice.

[Steve Ciccalone]

"Nothing could be finer"!

[Barry B./ Ma.]

My Avatar shows my 30 std. roadster with black wheels and tires. I think they look better that way.

[John Stone]

My avatar shows a black on black on black Business Coupe. Maybe you can use your imagination.

[IrishHills]

Originally Posted by JimBoehmke

second try for pic

yea baby !!!

[John Stone]

Here is a little better picture of the Business Coupe

[Gary Karr]

The picture of Jim Boehmke's beautiful black Coupe says it all! Beautiful!

[flexiheep]

Here is my coupe ib all black, painted about 40 years ago or more, please excuse the snow, it is the only good picture I have of it right now.
Don't forget the black bumpers, mirror and headlight buckets, I wonder some days what it would look like completely blacked out...

[shooter54]

i love black/black/black. those are some beautiful cars in this thread.

[Mikeinnj]

Vagabon Green body 29' with black wheels....see avitar

[CWPASADENA]

I am putting Black Wheels and Black Tires on my '30 Std. Tudor. I painted the body Green but I do like the Black Wheels and Tires. (I drove a Green Tudor to College 50 years ago and am trying to relive my childhood, or something like that.)

I would like to restore a Coupe sometime. It would be Black, Black, Black. This is just like I remember most of the A's being in the "Old Days".

I DID NOT restore the '31 Roadster pictured in my Avitar. This is the way I bought it. I am NOT a big fan of White Walls but this is JUST MY OPINION.

Chris.

[Special Coupe Frank]

Henry Ford's personal Model A, a '29 Special Coupe, was black /black/black, but with a red stripe on the belt... looks pretty sharp...

[Herman Munster]

I know Henry Ford was talking about Model T's at the time, but, when he said, "You can have any color as long as it's black" was the best thing that could be said about any color combination.

[Special Coupe Frank]

"Inexpensive to manufacture" was Henry Ford's favorite "color"...

[LukeDahlinger]

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Here's a photo of Henry Ford's Special Coupe in the Fair Lane Garage. (Not my photo, just one I found on Flickr)

[Tom F OHIO]

Everyone of those pictures of the cars are really sharp.. Did not see one black
car that I did'nt like. I don't think you'll have a problem Jamie.

Tom....

[roccaas]

Pinstripe color?

I saw a Black Fordor with Tacoma Cream pinstripe and matching Powder coat wheels and Blackwall tires. If I only had the money back then...

[Vanspeed]

Just my opinion, but my favorite model a's are all black, I don't care for ones that are all pretty with orange wheels, whitewalls, two tone paint, etc. They just look absolutely perfect all black. Just my opinion.

[LukeDahlinger]

Originally Posted by Vanspeed

Just my opinion, but my favorite model a's are all black, I don't care for ones that are all pretty with orange wheels, whitewalls, two tone paint, etc. They just look absolutely perfect all black. Just my opinion.

I agree. Model A's are simple cars, they look best when done in a simple style.

When you put on a bunch of aftermarket chrome, dual windshield wipers, wide white walls and other things along that line, it ceases to look like a Model A and more like an imitation Packard.

[Gary Karr]

Take a look at the cover of the Jan/Feb Model A News. Gary Johnson's georgous '31 68C Cabriolet in all black with black wheels and tires. What more can you say?

[RcT]

I have a '29 Special Coupe, all black, with black vinyl top, tires and even the exterior rear view mirror and conduits to the horn and lights are black. the only brightwork is the radiator shell and headlights, tail light and hubcaps. The zinc around the running boards is as original. I know some of the stuff is kosher, but the car looks great, in my opinion. By the way, Henry's personal coupe was all black...

[Chris in WNC]

this works fine for me, too......

[Richard Wilson]

Hey Chris. Saw your coupe at the Fletcher show. Looked as good in the day light as it did in the basement.

[gweilbaker]

Jamie,
I think you should consider a black pin strip to set off the black wheels

GW

[jkcrosson]

Originally Posted by gweilbaker

Jamie,
I think you should consider a black pin strip to set off the black wheels

GW

That's funny. I had a serious reply typed and then I realized you were joking.

[Special Coupe Frank]

Just throwing this out for consideration...

After making only all-black cars for most the of preceeding 19 years of Model T production, ( yes, there were exceptions in the early days and during the last year of production), Ford made a conscious effort to offer many colors EXCEPT black when the Model A was introduced. It could be special-ordered, but it was NOT a "standard" body color until mid-1930 or so, if I remember the Paint & Finish Guide correctly.

Yes, Old Henry's personal '29 coupe was "all-black", but then, it was his company.... he could also have had it painted in rainbow bands of color like a Ruxton if that was his choice.

I'm still struggling with the choice of picking colors for my '28 Special Coupe... none of the official colors really thrill me.

If someone is going to paint their car shiny-black, the sheetmetal had better be flawless...

Old Henry's Special Coupe does look stunning in all-black with a red stripe, but I'll bet the coachwork is in perfect condition too...

[jkcrosson]

My car was black when I bought it in 96. I believe from what I can find, it was Andalusite blue to originally. It has never been professionally painted only years of a farmer brushing or spray canning it to protect from the elements. I don't intend on painting the car because I like the not so perfect look. I did paint the wheels vermillion red about 12 years ago. Now I'm tired of that look. I feel everyone sees red wheels coming and then notice the black car that is attached. I will either repaint them black or just find a worn rusty set to put on the car. I love the look of Bert's pick up he has on his website.

[Flathead]

Worn, rusty, apple green has a very nice look. Just a thought.

[Special Coupe Frank]

Jamie,

We just found some traces of original paint on my coupe... a very dark blue lower body ( probably Andalusite ) and one of the light blues in the reveals around the 1/4 windows... doesn't really match any of the chips in the P & F Guide, but it seems to be original...

My car got the rattle-can black treatment, and she'll stay that way for some time to come.

[jkcrosson]

I've got a 5 yr old and a 2 yr old daughter who thinks my front fender is a "new" kind of slide. Guess what. I let them slide because I don't have to worry about the fender getting scratched.

[V4F]

they always paint back to red !

[jkcrosson]

So what should I expect to pay for a solid but worn/rusty 21" wheel.

[Bruce in southern OH]

1929 Phaeton

[Tom Wesenberg]

Originally Posted by jkcrosson

So what should I expect to pay for a solid but worn/rusty 21" wheel.

I usually find what looks like a good 21" wheel for about $20 to $25. When I get them home and spin them, about 1 in 3 is good enough to use without some straightening. Look for cracks, welds, deep rust, and oversized mounting holes. I try to never buy a wheel with a tire still mounted, because no matter how good the wheel looks, the bead hidden by the tire can have rust holes. Yes, I bought one and learned, but I only paid $5 for it. Bad wheels can be welded together to make a lawn chair.

[Bick in New Zealand]

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Here is my favourite black car, Richard Morse's aka 'Spider' 1931 Victoria all dressed up to take my daughter to her wedding.

[Bruce in southern OH]

1929 Phaeton

[mot]

heres a picture of Plucks really nice black 29 coupe
original color
this example is just what the typical A is in my mind
tom

[ldreeg]

That is how I am doing my 30 Tudor standard: black, black, black.

[Django]

Jamie, it's been 5 months. Please tell me your wheels are black by now...

[Dave27]

Originally Posted by flexiheep

Here is my coupe ib all black, painted about 40 years ago or more, please excuse the snow, it is the only good picture I have of it right now.
Don't forget the black bumpers, mirror and headlight buckets, I wonder some days what it would look like completely blacked out...

That would make a great christmas card.

[jkcrosson]

Originally Posted by Django

Jamie, it's been 5 months. Please tell me your wheels are black by now...

I cannot believe this topic has resurfaced. I have a 5 year old daughter who has Daddy wrapped around her little finger. Everytime I mention it she says, "Daddy please don't paint them black I like them red". Sooooooooo no they are not black yet. I know there is only a short time she is gonna be interested in my "Bad Guy Car" as she calls it. The bottom line is, as long as she wants them red, I will lay my wants to the side. I sure do want to paint the black and would do so this afternoon if given the go ahead but, It sure is fun going down the road with her riding with me.

[JpMotorsports]

I am a big fan of black on black on black. To me the black wheels with black walls look more elegant than colored wheels and white walls. Dont hate me its just how I feel

[Deluxe Delivery Don]

Originally Posted by jkcrosson

I cannot believe this topic has resurfaced. I have a 5 year old daughter who has Daddy wrapped around her little finger. Everytime I mention it she says, "Daddy please don't paint them black I like them red". Sooooooooo no they are not black yet. I know there is only a short time she is gonna be interested in my "Bad Guy Car" as she calls it. The bottom line is, as long as she wants them red, I will lay my wants to the side. I sure do want to paint the black and would do so this afternoon if given the go ahead but, It sure is fun going down the road with her riding with me.

JK ,Just get 2 different sets of wheels, Then both you and your daughter will have the best of both worlds. Her's will be Red and yours will be Black. Just a idea. Don

[jkcrosson]

Originally Posted by Deluxe Delivery Don

JK ,Just get 2 different sets of wheels, Then both you and your daughter will have the best of both worlds. Her's will be Red and yours will be Black. Just a idea. Don

LOL. I have actually thought about painting the driver side wheels black and leaving the passenger side red for her.

[sidevalve]

JimBoehmke, That's a Sweeeeeet looking car. Nice job

[Tom Wesenberg]

Your daughter needs an antique pedal car with red wheels!

[jkcrosson]

Originally Posted by Tom Wesenberg

Your daughter needs an antique pedal car with red wheels!

Now there's an idea.

[Bill in Al]

Jamie,How about joining in with us old guys at Jacks around 5pm the second Saturday of each month? Cruise-in for anything from T's and A's to "you name it". Good times with good folks.I'd like to meet you and I think you'd enjoy yourself. Bill

[jkcrosson]

Originally Posted by Bill in Al

Jamie,How about joining in with us old guys at Jacks around 5pm the second Saturday of each month? Cruise-in for anything from T's and A's to "you name it". Good times with good folks.I'd like to meet you and I think you'd enjoy yourself. Bill

I'll try to do that. I'm assuming the next on is aug 13???

[Bill in Al]

Aug. 13 is correct and if you'd like to go,there's a cruise-in in Talladega near the Walmart today starting around 4-5 pm.Actually it's about a hundred yards to the left as you're looking at the store. I'll be in my '41 tudor. Hope to see you!--Bill

[jkcrosson]

2 years and 4 months from the original post, I finally have black wheels. And I still have red wheels. I found a guy locally the had changed his 29 tudor to 17" wheels and he sold me his black 21's with a nice set of firestone tires. So I have my black wheels and my daughter has her red wheels. Maybe I should by her a Model A for when she turns 16. I've got 9 years to raise the money.

[Tiny]

Gangster!!!!

[jkcrosson]

Originally Posted by Tiny

Gangster!!!!

As my girls say, "Bad Guy Car"

[P.S.]

Jamie- On your car, the all black really works. Very nice.

That Victoria in post #47 is absolutely stunning. I'm not tossing that word around lightly, that car is truly stunning.

[Purdy Swoft]

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My wife Deb and my grand daughter with the coupe. We like red wheels. I sprayed the black single stage Sherwin Williams urethane nearly 20 years ago and it still cleans up good.

[Franchise_24]

Originally Posted by Barry B./ Ma.

My Avatar shows my 30 std. roadster with black wheels and tires. I think they look better that way.

Your avatar has yellow wheels.

[700rpm]

See my avatar.
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[willobs]

Post #63 makes me a believer in Black wheels and tires, What a difference! MHO

[Pete / MA]

My early 1930, 130A Deluxe Delivery. Black on black

[Rex_A_Lott]

Originally Posted by jkcrosson

2 years and 4 months from the original post, I finally have black wheels. And I still have red wheels. I found a guy locally the had changed his 29 tudor to 17" wheels and he sold me his black 21's with a nice set of firestone tires. So I have my black wheels and my daughter has her red wheels. Maybe I should by her a Model A for when she turns 16. I've got 9 years to raise the money.

Enjoy it while you can! A lot of kids at 16 dont want to be seen around Mom and Dad and their old car any more....but hang on, the grandkids will love the old car.

[jhowes]

What is an Avatar and how do I view it? I would like to see the 30 roadster black on black on black. What color pinstriping in that case?

[mhsprecher]

My Town Sedan has cream wheels, which I like very much, and whitewalls, which I don't. When they wear out, I will buy replacement blackwalls. The black wheels look nice, but I am not going to change mine. I don't have a pin stripe, which I think I should. My paint is good, but not flawless, so not sure about the stripe.

[modelAtony]

Originally Posted by jkcrosson

I am considering painting my wheels black. I am tired of the vermillion red wheels on a 29 tudor. That would leave me with a black car, black wheels and blackwall tires. Anyone have any pictures of a completely black tudor or any model a for that matter. I have found a few searching the web but most have a color variation be it body, whitewalls or wheels. What is everyone's opinion.

I run WW tires on both my cars BUT I really love looking at a ALL BLACK model a. they have that ELEGANT look have fun modelAtony Lafayette,LA

[Purdy Swoft]

Black is probably the best way to go. Solid black is definately easier to do than a two tone body with black fenders. Black is easy to match if ever needed and black paint is easier to locate than rock moss green or lombard blue. Ninety nine percent of the model A's that I remember as a kid was painted black.

[BobbyG]

I like all black this is my 28.

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[DannyC]

Originally Posted by jkcrosson

I am considering painting my wheels black. I am tired of the vermillion red wheels on a 29 tudor. That would leave me with a black car, black wheels and blackwall tires. Anyone have any pictures of a completely black tudor or any model a for that matter. I have found a few searching the web but most have a color variation be it body, whitewalls or wheels. What is everyone's opinion.

Yes, yes and yes...

[flathead 1150]

Here is a picture of one of my Sport Coupes black with black wheels maybe this will give you a idea what your car would look like.

[whirnot]

I would recommend you have them Powder coated, looks great and holds up so much better.