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txmike · 03-19-2015, 07:32 PM

I have searched my manuals and the site and must be missing something so here goes

I have my 29 Coupe up on jack stands and thought I would slowly shift thru the gears a little before actually driving the car.

When I try to shift in 1st or reverse it grinds. I do not force it.
Comments for help here?
tks
Mike

txmike · 03-19-2015, 09:29 PM

Hello i am looking for someone to tell me what adjustments need to be made
It is like when I depress the clutch pedal it is not working
sorry for such a poor description

glenn in camino · 03-19-2015, 10:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by txmike

I have searched my manuals and the site and must be missing something so here goes

I have my 29 Coupe up on jack stands and thought I would slowly shift thru the gears a little before actually driving the car.

When I try to shift in 1st or reverse it grinds. I do not force it.
Comments for help here?
tks
Mike

I had the same problem with my first restoration. I friend came over and just pulled it into first. No problems since. Just do it.

glenn in camino · 03-19-2015, 10:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by txmike

I have searched my manuals and the site and must be missing something so here goes

I have my 29 Coupe up on jack stands and thought I would slowly shift thru the gears a little before actually driving the car.

When I try to shift in 1st or reverse it grinds. I do not force it.
Comments for help here?
tks
Mike

I had the same problem with my first restoration. A close friend came over and just pulled it into first gear. No problems since. The gears and bearings were all new and cost $80.00. It was 1970. Just do it.

ctlikon0712 · 03-19-2015, 10:12 PM

Your Idle speed might be too high.

Bob C · 03-19-2015, 10:37 PM

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Could the clutch disc be stuck to the flywheel from sitting to long??

Bob

Fullraceflathead · 03-19-2015, 10:43 PM

Try applying the brakes first, in case the clutch is dragging a little. This will stop the shaft from free wheeling from the oil drag inside the transmission. I am also assuming you have the clutch adjusted correctly and did not bend the disc during the install.
Idle speed must be close to normal, not fast.

Tom Wesenberg · 03-19-2015, 11:02 PM

You could put the tranny in first gear then start the engine. Then push the clutch in then the brakes to be sure the disc isn't stuck to the flywheel. Also you have to allow enough seconds for the clutch disc to stop spinning before shifting from neutral to first, just like when at a red light.

Mike V. Florida · 03-20-2015, 12:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by txmike

I have searched my manuals and the site and must be missing something so here goes

I have my 29 Coupe up on jack stands and thought I would slowly shift thru the gears a little before actually driving the car.

When I try to shift in 1st or reverse it grinds. I do not force it.
Comments for help here?
tks
Mike

Normally at a light or when you first start the car nothing in the tranny is moving. Nothing moving nothing to grind. So I would also think that the clutch is not separating.

Tom Wesenberg · 03-20-2015, 02:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Mike V. Florida

Normally at a light or when you first start the car nothing in the tranny is moving. Nothing moving nothing to grind. So I would also think that the clutch is not separating.

The clutch disc, input shaft, and cluster gear are all spinning, unless you are holding the clutch pedal to the floor while waiting at the light.

Riding the clutch is bad practice because you are wearing out the thrust babbit and throw out bearing. I try to watch for the yellow light, then step on the clutch. By the time the light turns green, the input shaft usually has stopped spinning.

Mike V. Florida · 03-20-2015, 02:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom Wesenberg

The clutch disc, input shaft, and cluster gear are all spinning, unless you are holding the clutch pedal to the floor while waiting at the light.

Riding the clutch is bad practice because you are wearing out the thrust babbit and throw out bearing. I try to watch for the yellow light, then step on the clutch. By the time the light turns green, the input shaft usually has stopped spinning.

Exactly, nothing moving, nothing to grind.

Tom Wesenberg · 03-20-2015, 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Mike V. Florida

Exactly, nothing moving, nothing to grind.

The clutch disc, input shaft, and cluster gear are all moving.

txmike · 03-20-2015, 09:11 PM

ok lots of good info!
i have a lot to do tomorrow
Thanks guys

1931 flamingo · 03-21-2015, 08:38 AM

What fluid do you have in the transmission??
Paul in CT

Mitch//pa · 03-21-2015, 09:44 AM

Tom is correct on what is spinning and when

03-19-2015, 07:32 PM	#1
txmike Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: DFW Area Posts: 165	Test Drive I have searched my manuals and the site and must be missing something so here goes I have my 29 Coupe up on jack stands and thought I would slowly shift thru the gears a little before actually driving the car. When I try to shift in 1st or reverse it grinds. I do not force it. Comments for help here? tks Mike

03-19-2015, 09:29 PM	#2
txmike Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: DFW Area Posts: 165	Re: Test Drive Hello i am looking for someone to tell me what adjustments need to be made It is like when I depress the clutch pedal it is not working sorry for such a poor description

03-19-2015, 10:12 PM	#5
ctlikon0712 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Cocoa, Florida Posts: 1,609	Re: Test Drive Your Idle speed might be too high. __________________ Wanted: Simmons Super Power Head Craig Likon 1931 150B

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Bob C Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: So Cal Posts: 8,754	Re: Test Drive Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) Could the clutch disc be stuck to the flywheel from sitting to long?? Bob

03-19-2015, 10:43 PM	#7
Fullraceflathead Senior Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: Chillicothe, Missouri Posts: 1,176	Re: Test Drive Try applying the brakes first, in case the clutch is dragging a little. This will stop the shaft from free wheeling from the oil drag inside the transmission. I am also assuming you have the clutch adjusted correctly and did not bend the disc during the install. Idle speed must be close to normal, not fast. __________________ "If I asked people what they wanted they would have said faster horses." -Henry Ford "Primitive technology is not a design flaw" 1928 Ford Model A Roadster Pickup 1930 Gordon Smith Air Compressor 1941 Willy's Pickup 1960 Thunderbird-For Sale 1964 Buick Riviera 2x4 425 1965 Pontiac GTO, 455 Super Duty 2004 Dodge Ram SRT-10, V-10 Viper 1977 Charger Jet Boat,460 Ford,Jacuzzi Jet Front Engine Nostalgia Dragster,Supercharged 296 "Fullrace Flathead" Ford Engine Build up on DVD ask

03-19-2015, 11:02 PM	#8
Tom Wesenberg Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Mpls, MN Posts: 27,582	Re: Test Drive You could put the tranny in first gear then start the engine. Then push the clutch in then the brakes to be sure the disc isn't stuck to the flywheel. Also you have to allow enough seconds for the clutch disc to stop spinning before shifting from neutral to first, just like when at a red light.

03-20-2015, 09:11 PM	#13
txmike Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: DFW Area Posts: 165	Re: Test Drive ok lots of good info! i have a lot to do tomorrow Thanks guys

03-21-2015, 08:38 AM	#14
1931 flamingo Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: new britain,ct 06052 Posts: 9,390	Re: Test Drive What fluid do you have in the transmission?? Paul in CT

03-21-2015, 09:44 AM	#15
Mitch//pa BANNED Join Date: May 2010 Location: Bucks County, PA Posts: 11,454	Re: Test Drive Tom is correct on what is spinning and when