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G.M. · 08-19-2012, 05:57 PM

I ment a guy at the V/8 show in Ga. a few years ago with a 41 4 cylinder. I asked him how it was on the road, he said worse than a V/8 60. G.M.

Gumpy · 08-19-2012, 06:27 PM

Jeff-

thankyou for sharing your information about the 4 cly....back in 41-42 there wasn't an interstate hiway system....50mph cruising is about right...very nice truck!

mrmoose · 08-19-2012, 06:31 PM

George, they are decidedly worse than a V8 60. It runs...well, just like an old tractor. Handles and brakes fine tho. And to oldrelics, regarding the fender....old farm truck and both rear fenders have been smacked and reworked many rears ago....the right rear was badly done, with the area just behind the wheel sticking way out, and when I got the truck here and pushed on that part of the fender it popped out right above the wheel. It is another matter of $$ or ambition (or in this case skill) and I'm afraid for this particular job I am decidedly lacking in both at present. In time if I'm able to keep the truck I hope to get at this and other small repairs, but in the meantime I'm just going to mostly drive it.

ken ct · 08-19-2012, 07:33 PM

Way to go Jeff. ken ct.

grinnin · 08-19-2012, 08:08 PM

Old Clem has a close relative on e__Y. I have no dog in this hunt but if MrMOOSe' 4 cylinder is to your liking you might check it out.
listing 271036931074
Charlie

fordman · 08-19-2012, 10:31 PM

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I have a '41 ford pickup with a 4 cylinder 9N engine. I found it at a farmhouse. when I lifted the hood, I nearly fell over; presumed someone had been fooling around with it but the air cleaner looked so authentic. I went home and looked it up in the green book and saw it was authentic; it did not run. removed the head in the farm yard; not good but i bought it anyway. I have got it half way completed and switched priority to a '40 coupe and then I will go back to the pu.

fordman

bgarrett · 08-19-2012, 10:38 PM

What is the difference in the front crossmember? maybe a picture?

fordman · 08-19-2012, 10:50 PM

there are no differences in the front cross member of my 4 cylinder pu but some of the cross members were made with a deep drop to accommodate the 6 cylinder engine. I saw one and it looked real freaky.

they also made the 4 cylinder in '42.

fordman

bgarrett · 08-20-2012, 04:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrmoose

I have thought of replacing the little 4 with a proper flathead, and have the correct front crossmember and a rebuidable radiator in the shed,
mrmoose

this made me wonder about the front crossmember

bgarrett · 08-20-2012, 11:09 PM

I have 11 40/41 trucks and they have three different frames

mrmoose · 08-21-2012, 02:08 PM

As I recall the crossmembers were quite different but I could be mistaken....when I find some time and dig it out of the shed I'll compare the 2 and report here, maybe with pix too. It may be some time though, as it's buried pretty good.

Mart · 08-21-2012, 03:45 PM

Ok, here's what I THINK.

The 41's all had the same crossmember. This crossmember has a deep drop and will accomodate the 6 cyl engine. It will also take the V8 and (I guess) the 4 cyl. They did not use different crossmembers in 41 for the different engines, thay all used the same one, the one with a deep drop.

I have a 41 and it has the deep drop crossmember. The engine mounts line up with the flathead v8 mounts.

The 41 rides a little higher than the 40 due to the deep drop crossmember. The bump stops have a 1" spacer built in. If you fit a 40 style crossmember (to help lower the front) then you should also swap out the bump stops and fit the 40 style that do not have spacers.

Again, this is what I THINK. If I have it right or wrong please let me know.

Mart.

FL&WVMIKE · 08-21-2012, 04:39 PM

mrmoose .......................
If you would decide to change out that rear end, you can sell those low gears to a vintage drag-racer. At one time, they were the "ticket" for drag-racing !
MIKE

oldrelics · 08-21-2012, 08:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mart

Ok, here's what I THINK.

The 41's all had the same crossmember. This crossmember has a deep drop and will accomodate the 6 cyl engine. It will also take the V8 and (I guess) the 4 cyl. They did not use different crossmembers in 41 for the different engines, thay all used the same one, the one with a deep drop.

I have a 41 and it has the deep drop crossmember. The engine mounts line up with the flathead v8 mounts.

The 41 rides a little higher than the 40 due to the deep drop crossmember. The bump stops have a 1" spacer built in. If you fit a 40 style crossmember (to help lower the front) then you should also swap out the bump stops and fit the 40 style that do not have spacers.

Again, this is what I THINK. If I have it right or wrong please let me know.

Mart.

I had an unmodified true '41 and it had the non-deepdrop x-mem.....maybe leftover '40?
Here is a pic of the front frame section .....

Hamtown Al · 08-22-2012, 08:05 PM

DAMN! That's one SHORT pkp chassis!

08-19-2012, 05:57 PM	#41
G.M. Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Florida and Penna. Posts: 4,471	Re: 1941 4 cylinder pickup I ment a guy at the V/8 show in Ga. a few years ago with a 41 4 cylinder. I asked him how it was on the road, he said worse than a V/8 60. G.M. __________________ www.fordcollector.com

08-19-2012, 06:27 PM	#42
Gumpy Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Sf bay area Posts: 1,464	Re: 1941 4 cylinder pickup Jeff- thankyou for sharing your information about the 4 cly....back in 41-42 there wasn't an interstate hiway system....50mph cruising is about right...very nice truck!

08-19-2012, 06:31 PM	#43
mrmoose Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: St. Petersburg, FL Posts: 168	Re: 1941 4 cylinder pickup George, they are decidedly worse than a V8 60. It runs...well, just like an old tractor. Handles and brakes fine tho. And to oldrelics, regarding the fender....old farm truck and both rear fenders have been smacked and reworked many rears ago....the right rear was badly done, with the area just behind the wheel sticking way out, and when I got the truck here and pushed on that part of the fender it popped out right above the wheel. It is another matter of $$ or ambition (or in this case skill) and I'm afraid for this particular job I am decidedly lacking in both at present. In time if I'm able to keep the truck I hope to get at this and other small repairs, but in the meantime I'm just going to mostly drive it.

08-19-2012, 07:33 PM	#44
ken ct BANNED Join Date: May 2010 Location: stratford,ct Posts: 5,971	Re: 1941 4 cylinder pickup Way to go Jeff. ken ct.

08-19-2012, 08:08 PM	#45
grinnin Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Fort Worth, TX Posts: 20	Re: 1941 4 cylinder pickup Old Clem has a close relative on e__Y. I have no dog in this hunt but if MrMOOSe' 4 cylinder is to your liking you might check it out. listing 271036931074 Charlie

08-19-2012, 10:31 PM	#46
fordman Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Levelland, Tx Posts: 418	Re: 1941 4 cylinder pickup Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) I have a '41 ford pickup with a 4 cylinder 9N engine. I found it at a farmhouse. when I lifted the hood, I nearly fell over; presumed someone had been fooling around with it but the air cleaner looked so authentic. I went home and looked it up in the green book and saw it was authentic; it did not run. removed the head in the farm yard; not good but i bought it anyway. I have got it half way completed and switched priority to a '40 coupe and then I will go back to the pu. fordman

08-19-2012, 10:38 PM	#47
bgarrett Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 243	Re: 1941 4 cylinder pickup What is the difference in the front crossmember? maybe a picture?

08-19-2012, 10:50 PM	#48
fordman Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Levelland, Tx Posts: 418	Re: 1941 4 cylinder pickup there are no differences in the front cross member of my 4 cylinder pu but some of the cross members were made with a deep drop to accommodate the 6 cylinder engine. I saw one and it looked real freaky. they also made the 4 cylinder in '42. fordman

08-20-2012, 11:09 PM	#50
bgarrett Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 243	Re: 1941 4 cylinder pickup I have 11 40/41 trucks and they have three different frames

08-21-2012, 02:08 PM	#51
mrmoose Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: St. Petersburg, FL Posts: 168	Re: 1941 4 cylinder pickup As I recall the crossmembers were quite different but I could be mistaken....when I find some time and dig it out of the shed I'll compare the 2 and report here, maybe with pix too. It may be some time though, as it's buried pretty good.

08-21-2012, 03:45 PM	#52
Mart Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Solihull, England. Posts: 8,755	Re: 1941 4 cylinder pickup Ok, here's what I THINK. The 41's all had the same crossmember. This crossmember has a deep drop and will accomodate the 6 cyl engine. It will also take the V8 and (I guess) the 4 cyl. They did not use different crossmembers in 41 for the different engines, thay all used the same one, the one with a deep drop. I have a 41 and it has the deep drop crossmember. The engine mounts line up with the flathead v8 mounts. The 41 rides a little higher than the 40 due to the deep drop crossmember. The bump stops have a 1" spacer built in. If you fit a 40 style crossmember (to help lower the front) then you should also swap out the bump stops and fit the 40 style that do not have spacers. Again, this is what I THINK. If I have it right or wrong please let me know. Mart.

08-21-2012, 04:39 PM	#53
FL&WVMIKE Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Daytona Beach, Fl & Spencer, W. Va, Posts: 4,442	Re: 1941 4 cylinder pickup mrmoose ....................... If you would decide to change out that rear end, you can sell those low gears to a vintage drag-racer. At one time, they were the "ticket" for drag-racing ! MIKE

08-22-2012, 08:05 PM	#55
Hamtown Al Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Smithfield, Va Posts: 822	Re: 1941 4 cylinder pickup DAMN! That's one SHORT pkp chassis! __________________ 36 Fords Rule! Visit at www.36fords.com.