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Old 12-16-2014, 08:17 AM   #1
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Default 1928 1/2" Service Drive Picture Test

Service Drive for the 1/2" starters ued in 1928.

I took this picture a few years ago and had it stored on my old desktop computer. I don't remember what I did to send it to my laptop, but when I go to "pictures" and click on the icon of this drive, all that shows up is a horizontal line. Now I just posted the picture here and it shows up just fine. Anyone know what's going on? Thanks
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Old 12-16-2014, 08:45 AM   #2
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Check what the subscript is on the pix. .jpg is most common - but there are other picture formats. Your computer may not have a default setting (a "go to" program) for the format in question.

See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image_file_formats

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Old 12-16-2014, 08:50 AM   #3
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OK, here's more to the mystery. Since the picture above posted fine and enlarged fine when I clciked on the thumbnail, I saved it to "my pictures". Once save back to "my pictures" I clciked on the thumbnail, and once again just the horizontal line showed up. However, if I right click on the thumbnail, then click on "open with Internet Explorer", the picture opens just fine.
I'm still baffled by why it won't open by just the normal clicking on the thumbnail?
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Old 12-16-2014, 09:29 AM   #4
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Still sounding like you have a different (or no) default than what the file requires.

And by "opening with Internet Explorer" you're overriding the default (or giving it something other than nothing to work with.)

Windows XP is no longer supported by Microsoft, but they leave some stuff out there for those who wish to "tinker." (and maybe compensate for advances in software beyond the XP era.) The following link shows the changes you can make to an XP operating system to accomodate "different" computer defaults. There is similar modus for the other operating systems.

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/332003

And if you're in Mac Land (like my wife) then this won't help.

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Old 12-16-2014, 09:43 AM   #5
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I suspect the image file was corrupted. I saw the same horizontal line in Windows Photo Viewer when double-clicking on your original file.

I opened the image in Axialis IconWorkshop and resaved it as a jpg. The new image opens fine in Windows Photo Viewer. Try the new attachment.
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Old 12-16-2014, 11:25 AM   #6
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Try saving this one.

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OK, I just saved the picture by newshirt and it works fine.

Bob, all I can see in your post is a red X inside a box.

As I said before, when it comes to computers, I'm as dumb as a box of rocks.
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Old 12-16-2014, 04:43 PM   #9
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And this is what happens when some fool puts a bolt in where that headless slotted screw is, and the bolt head hits the multi disc flywheel......

It was a bit too big to fish out with a magnet....

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Hi Tom,
Here is a photo of mine. I cleaned the grease off of it and used light oil instead after I read one of your posts. I just didn't take a new photo.
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Here is a photo of mine. I cleaned the grease off of it and used light oil instead after I read one of your posts. I just didn't take a new photo.
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The grease on the spring and light coat on the pinion teeth is fine. You just don't want grease on the helix under the drive pinion, as it can hold the pinion from sliding up the spiral when the armature starts spinning.
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Thanks all for re-posting these pictures. I'm currently going through trying to repair a broken Bendix drive like pictured above. There aren't a lot of parts around for these A-11354-BR units!
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We started an early '28 yesterday with one of these setups thanks to the spring supplied by a Ford Barn member. Bob
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Here is a photo of the one that I have. I t was broken, do to poor packaging
in shipment.

1. Is this the A-11354-BR ?
2. How many different springs for the Bendix,..what are the sizes?
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Old 12-17-2014, 03:22 PM   #15
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Dudley, the drive looks usable if you sandblast it, notch the sping as pictured above, and make the anchor bolt headless as pictured above.

That's a shame that the shipper was so rough as to break the shaft. Is this the starter with one field mounting screw, or is it the earlier style with 2 mounting screws for the field pole shoes?
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Here is a photo of the one that I have. I t was broken, do to poor packaging
in shipment.

1. Is this the A-11354-BR ?
2. How many different springs for the Bendix,..what are the sizes?
That was busted by use of the bolt that hit the fllywheel

If that was posted to you, it was fractured badly by said bolt and it finally broke off in transport.
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If my memory serves me correctly, there are three bendix springs, all listed in the Service Bulletin. If you look at the picture posted by Tom, youw ill notice that the BR spring used on the early Abell starters with the slotted headless anchor bolt, it also has a notched surface on that end to clear the flywheel.
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Old 12-17-2014, 04:32 PM   #18
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Dudley, the drive looks usable if you sandblast it, notch the sping as pictured above, and make the anchor bolt headless as pictured above.

That's a shame that the shipper was so rough as to break the shaft. Is this the starter with one field mounting screw, or is it the earlier style with 2 mounting screws for the field pole shoes?
Tom,...it has a single screw per field,...now looking for another
armature. But I think I'll use the next style, which should work for
my August 28 car. The starter that I have has the appearance of the
earlier style, but has the 5/8" shaft..

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That was busted by use of the bolt that hit the fllywheel

If that was posted to you, it was fractured badly by said bolt and it finally broke off in transport.
Pooch,...I saw photos of the starter before it was shipped. It was
shipped in a light weight cardboard box,...with a hole out the side!
The "break" is fresh with no discoloration...
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Gary,

Thank you for the information,...that helps..
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Old 12-17-2014, 05:27 PM   #20
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If you're using a single plate flywheel, then any Model A starter will work.

There are two styles of multiplate flywheels, with the second style being recessed on the outisde diameter. I haven't checked to see if it's enough clearance for the 5/8" starter.
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