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Old 03-09-2022, 01:30 PM   #1
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To day our gas is now 5.00 gal.I would like to now how to get the max. millage. Last summer my best was 22 mils. to the gal. I have 260 cu. 77 b cam 378 gear with OD. One 94 carb chev. dis. and fenton headers. Jack.
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If you're getting 22 miles to the gallon with a flathead, you must be driving downhill.
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If you're getting 22 miles to the gallon with a flathead, you must be driving downhill.
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Is that an Imperial gallon?
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Canadian gallons do make a difference as they are bigger but still I'm happy to hit 15 mpg on the old 52 Merc. I don't put on enough miles in a year that gas mileage is going to be a concern.
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An imperial gallon equals 1.2 U.S. gallons. It has been a long time since gasoline was sold in imperial gallons in Canada as it is sold by the liter (litre) these days.
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My friends home made hydrogen generator would be the ticket!! You don't have a OBD 2 or 3 to have to manipulate. IS that maybe "imperial" miles to a US Gallon? JK (2nd statement)....amazing mileage though
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Keep Driving / Enjoying.
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When I drove the 1-1/2 ton truck wit about 2 ton load to flea markets— usually not driving over 55 it got 17-18 mpg, when it was sold and driven to California the guy said he got 15, used 2 quarts oil, and he made it in 4 days, so I figured he drove it over 60 mph. The 39 with 60 hp got over 25 mpg unless it was driven over 70, then it was 20 mpg
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Old 03-09-2022, 05:43 PM   #11
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I've always wanted to build a gasifier too. My neighbor from Finland says a few where around when he was a kid
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Old 03-09-2022, 05:53 PM   #12
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with the engine off!
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Old 03-09-2022, 09:32 PM   #13
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To increase your MPG, just lie about it. LOL
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To day our gas is now 5.00 gal.I would like to now how to get the max. millage. Last summer my best was 22 mils. to the gal. I have 260 cu. 77 b cam 378 gear with OD. One 94 carb chev. dis. and fenton headers. Jack.
That is entirely possible with that engine, AND, if you drove like they do in mileage contests, you could most likely improve quite a bit on that.
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Old 03-09-2022, 11:50 PM   #15
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Compression, lean mixture , and allot of advance. Best dist for this project would be one of Charlies distributirs and a 2GC carb to start with. But 22 would be hard to beat??
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Canadian gallons do make a difference as they are bigger ...
Aren't your miles longer though?
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Aren't your miles longer though?
According to some people we don't have miles here anymore but kilometres. If you want true confusion try reading the mileage ratings of new cars in litres per hundred kilometres.
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Just would like to point out the first post didn't claim any MPG. Rather, he claimed millage which has zero to do with automobiles.
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AND that millage hurts a fella a whole lot more than a fuel-hungry flattie!

Adding, I just noticed this is my post number 3,232 on the FordBarn!
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Old 03-10-2022, 06:10 PM   #20
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Check out my post on the 33 out west for the fuel useage in my 33 , it has a 265 engine with stock 33 cam and manifold and 97 carb, it’s towing a caravan
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Our 2 38s get about 16mpg
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Old 03-10-2022, 06:35 PM   #22
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You guys don't know how lucky you are at $5 Canadian per UK gallon !!
Gas in New Zealand is the equivalent of $13 Canadian dollars per UK Gallon
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I had a fresh tune up in a stock 50 sedan with overdrive. Steady 50 mph in overdrive was 22 miles per gallon.
My 53 sedan with 215 OHV six and overdrive will get a little over 20 if I keep it under 65, but drops to 18.5 at 75.
Overdrive and slow speeds are your friend if mileage is a big concern, but how many miles do you have to drive to pay for the overdrive?
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Install a sail. Wind caught me today & I had to put the brakes on , while using my walker.
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Not sure I've made the effort to know.

My older f150 gets 13mpg. So anything above that is gravy to me.

Need a electronic runaround car to offset my day to day. I don't need a big gas truck to go to pick up groceries. But it certainly helps the few times I need gravel or pull a boat.
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Lawrie with all that fluid and distance metrics I'm going to have to do some conversions.
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I'm probably crossing a line but if you have read the US 2021 national intelligence council 4 yr report. It stresses that alternative fuel is key to national security.


For 50 yrs the policy was to use others oil instead of ours. But the US is the number 1 exporter. So... why is gas high here or our buddies??? Policies and politics aside.
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we drove our '41 fordor from Ny to Fla, 302, 2brl, 2:73 gears and got 24.5 MPG.
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Think about energy as a centralized power plant is an old idea. If every one had one solar panel on their house it would reduce the idea of power only delivered by one controlling entity. I'm sure the power companies and the lineman will do just fine managing the grid lines.



Don't worry however, they will figure out to tax for lost revenue from gas. Republicans in minnesota are already floating a bill to tax electric vehicles to off set gas taxes.
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If the price of gasoline staus high in the future. more guys will begin tuning their engines. This takea some exoerimentin, bt the theory is to burn a lean mixture. This takes allot of ignition advance. and the spark plug location becomes an issue. i have 2 engines in the works right now , both are 258 ci displacement . The first one will have the experimental LS intake style port yjr other is waiting for that Information. With a cam change the Cr increased It can be used to check fuek mileage. This will require a dist like Charley makes and a better carb. I;ll start with a 2GC. Some people here are running EFI systems and they can give us the timing numbers to get into the 15.5/1 CR range the modern cars run in creise.
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PS some are even higher than that???
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Ron. I have always respected/enjoyed your prospective of efficiency and performance detail.
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So now 60hp cars may become more valuable ---the 39 4 door with stock 60 hp once I learned how to drive it got 25+ mpg keeping it under 60. anytime it dropped to 40 on hills downshift to 2nd --it would take less throttle to go 45 in second than 40 in third on hills.
just under 20 mpg at 70 ---this car drove and rode really nice on the highway --fuel mileage documented with long term fuel useage records
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Around here everyone drives jacked up trucks with v8's. Few need it other then it's cool most of the time. It's hard not to understand reality and want to feel a bit despondent when they bitch.

For some, the second largest investment they make is a vehicle. It's just a depreciating asset, transportation. In Florida we always joked about seeing corvettes sitting in apartment complexes. It was maybe a florida thing

Not as cool as 39 4 door making 20. Also is a appreciating asset. Not like they are making new ones.


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You guys don't know how lucky you are at $5 Canadian per UK gallon !!
Gas in New Zealand is the equivalent of $13 Canadian dollars per UK Gallon
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It's a lot more than $5.00 per Imperial gallon!! It's about $2.00/ltr Can.
There are about 4.5 ltrs in a Imp. gallon so that's about $9.00 gallon. Our dillusional PM has brought in carbon taxes and fuel conservation taxes (actually a second carbon tax) and it goes up yearly. Consider we have huge oil reserves and supply the US with 50% of their oil we get no breaks in Canada. I am in Florida untill the snow melts. The gas prices here today are about $4.00 a US gallon (about 3.9 litres). The worst is heating our homes with natural gas which is 80% of all households. These taxes are applied to this as well.
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aus not much better $2.00 aud a litre roughly $10 us a gallon THANKS VLAD
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Might be a good time to dig those Fish carbs out of the junk boxes.....lol
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Fish carbs???? Pete, that dates you, I had one once!!!!!
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I think it's time to build a flathead that makes acceptable power for a 75 MPH cruise i a 3800 lb car/truck and gets 30 MPG at a reasonable cost. My favorite engine is a 258 CI (3 5/16 x 3 3/4).EAB CAM & heads angle milled electronic dist and Holley 1 1/16 carb on stock intake. I don't think this can do it but it would be a start. I have Richard Kunc "Road rig" I could dust off the dust and it could moniker the engine under load while driving.
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That would be a super neat venture! I think it would have to include a modern transmission to.
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Back in the first gas crisis in the late 70's I made an adapter out of a base for a bumper jack to mount a 1 barrel VW carb on an olds v8 4barrel manifold. It ran ok, but mileage gained was minimal. I really didnt play with it much, just threw it off as a failure. Damn kids
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The "first" gas crisis was probably in 1973 - gasoline went from $3 a barrel to $12, worse, there was an oil embargo by Opec. At the same time dollar devaluations made purchasing power decline rapidly.
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39 cents a gallon. hahaha.

We need to stop printing money. It's bad enough with criminal cryptocurrency, the world criminal currency. Dollar dollar bling yo.

Things are going to get tight. Just history repeating itself. A shit war we are not wanting or directly in taking over a peaceful country (it is important to us), social media, and a virus (whatever you want to believe it was), has made humans crazy. But my opinion if we do nothing, it'll come. Not now, but not that far off. A guy that says I "only" can fix it, or it wouldn't happened if, worries me.


I feel bad for the russian poeple being turned into another north korean state. But it's how it is.


One thing we can do as average people is to make things better. Local, state, world. Start local work your way out.


Some might think why are we worried about another place in the world? It's called geo politics. Sitting back and saying why do we care? WW2 told us. Why we can go to walmart and get cheap stuff, global. Reason ford bought land in Brazil (rubber). Things change quickly, but we are a country of amazing people that can change to the situation quickly. It's our strength.



We have our mistakes, but we have also done amazing things.. Maybe the burden falls on us. Who else will do anything. Really if you think about it. Certainly if we don't support our friends. Which is all that matters.


Lot of nations have put their neck out on the line for what matters. Could get dicey, if we fold. Freedom is not free as they say. One country is saying it with their life.




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39 cents a gallon. hahaha.

We need to stop printing money. It's bad enough with criminal cryptocurrency, the world criminal currency. Dollar dollar bling yo.

Things are going to get tight. Just history repeating itself. A shit war we are not wanting or directly in taking over a peaceful country (it is important to us), social media, and a virus (whatever you want to believe it was), has made humans crazy. But my opinion if we do nothing, it'll come. Not now, but not that far off. A guy that says I "only" can fix it, or it wouldn't happened if, worries me.


I feel bad for the russian poeple being turned into another north korean state. But it's how it is.


One thing we can do as average people is to make things better. Local, state, world. Start local work your way out.


Some might think why are we worried about another place in the world? It's called geo politics. Sitting back and saying why do we care? WW2 told us. Why we can go to walmart and get cheap stuff, global. Reason ford bought land in Brazil (rubber). Things change quickly, but we are a country of amazing people that can change to the situation quickly. It's our strength.



We have our mistakes, but we have also done amazing things.. Maybe the burden falls on us. Who else will do anything. Really if you think about it. Certainly if we don't support our friends. Which is all that matters.


Lot of nations have put their neck out on the line for what matters. Could get dicey, if we fold. Freedom is not free as they say. One country is saying it with their life.




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Well said.
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Compression, lean mixture , and allot of advance. Best dist for this project would be one of Charlies distributirs and a 2GC carb to start with. But 22 would be hard to beat??
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Absolutely true ol' Ron! I watched a very good video with David Vizard, a highly respected engine builder/tuner. He emphasized the use use of vacuum advance on a street machine, using manifold pressure, NOT port vacuum. At light throttle cruising you want as much advance as you can get for fuel mileage and he showed the method to do this. You also have centrifigal advance for performance as the vacuum advance dissipates when you are on the gas.
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The Vizard book on tuning Holley carburetors is outstanding. It's also excerpted btw, quite extensively, much of it available online. If I were selling books I'm not sure I'd care for that, but in any case it is very useful for understanding engine tuning. The book is specific to Holley carburetors, but the general principles of setup and step by step adjustment apply to any. Most popular advice for tuning is geared towards drag racing, you don't have to sacrifice performance for efficiency or anything like that but tuning for good street manners is actually a bit more difficult.
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It's a lot more than $5.00 per Imperial gallon!! It's about $2.00/ltr Can.
There are about 4.5 ltrs in a Imp. gallon so that's about $9.00 gallon. Our dillusional PM has brought in carbon taxes and fuel conservation taxes (actually a second carbon tax) and it goes up yearly. Consider we have huge oil reserves and supply the US with 50% of their oil we get no breaks in Canada. I am in Florida untill the snow melts. The gas prices here today are about $4.00 a US gallon (about 3.9 litres). The worst is heating our homes with natural gas which is 80% of all households. These taxes are applied to this as well.
That makes me feel a little better. We to have lots of taxes on our gas. However our Government has removed some of the tax (25 cents per litre) for a 6 month period to ease the pain of skyrocketing gas prices. Only a spoil sport would suggest that this benevolent gesture is related to a recent poll that showed a marked fall in Govt popularity now below that of a pretty mediocre opposition party !!
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