The Ford Barn

19-c · 05-09-2010, 11:38 AM

I bought this the other day at a thrift store. thought it was a 35-36 light but when i got it home the trim ring is different. the buckets are exactly the same as 1936 ford but this trim ring wraps around the lens a bit more and is wider?? It has a sealed beam in in right now. maybe it is an early conversion to a sealed beam? My goal is to find another trim ring like this and I need to know what im looking for. any help please? thanks!

1oldtimer · 05-09-2010, 11:44 AM

by the mounting and size i say no for a car....not sure on the pickup.

19-c · 05-09-2010, 11:54 AM

well the mounting is something that was home made I just havent taken it off yet. The bucket is the same size as the car buckets i have compared it to. I think it may be a car bucket with a truck or pickup trim ring. Thank you for the help I may be getting closer to cracking the mystery

FL&WVMIKE · 05-09-2010, 11:58 AM

19-C . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
That shell looks like it could be a '35-6, but that mount is strange, to me. If it is a Ford shell, it should have a Ford script and verbage on the front-top.
The '36 trim ring is wider that the '35. It could be that. Compare to a known one.
MIKE........

19-c · 05-09-2010, 12:02 PM

thanks mike. pay no atention to the mount it is a home made welded "thingamajigger" i just havent removed it yet but there is a threaded bolt like the original 35-36 The buckets are identical to other 35-36 buckets I have its just the stainless trim ring that is puzzling me. in the post by 1oldtimer it looks like i might have a truck trim ring? were truck and pickup buckets the same as car buckets?

19-c · 05-09-2010, 12:03 PM

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it does have the ford script on the bucket

1oldtimer · 05-09-2010, 12:06 PM

it might have a sealed beam conversion ring on it too or a homemade conversion from a truck......i'll see if i have any pics of the kit or the pickup.

1oldtimer · 05-09-2010, 12:15 PM

you might be right......

ken ct · 05-09-2010, 01:50 PM

36 glass lens is more bulbus [more rounded] than 35 which is shallower and more flat when viewed from the side. trim ring is wider on a 36 also. Buckets might be the same. ken ct.

19-c · 05-09-2010, 02:08 PM

Thanks guys! I knew i could count on the Barn I am 99.9% sure what I have here is a pickup or truck light

Tim Brown · 05-09-2010, 02:23 PM

Its a passenger car light. truck lights are not as deep and pointed in the back. The trim ring from a passenger car will fit truck lights. I switch them all the time.

19-c · 05-09-2010, 02:42 PM

Maybe its a car bucket with a truck trim ring on it?

Randy in ca · 05-09-2010, 05:52 PM

It appears to have a sealed beam in it, and unless it's a conversion that has been installed I'm guessing that its from 1940-41 truck (3/4 ton and up) or a COE from 1941 right up to about 1947. The 1940 lights were non adjustable, however the later ones were. The basic buckets on these trucks were identical to the '35-'36 cars. Need to disassemble and see what's inside. Post some more pic's of what's there if you're still unsure of what you have. Good luck.

jerry grayson · 05-09-2010, 06:06 PM

It looks like 40-41 COE Ford.

19-c · 05-09-2010, 06:32 PM

here are the guts

Randy in ca · 05-09-2010, 09:32 PM

I think you've got it aced. 1940 only tho, and not just the COE but all trucks 3/4 ton and up I believe - 1941 went to the adjustable style that had a whole bunch of extra stuff inside.

Lawson Cox · 05-09-2010, 10:00 PM

The ring is from a 40 big truck. I have sealed beams in my 35 PU with 40 big truck retaining rings. Looks original, but it is not.

19-c · 05-09-2010, 10:02 PM

Thanks a bunch guys!

Don Rogers · 05-09-2010, 10:31 PM

It's a 35 Ford passenger car light bucket. Trim ring ??????

05-09-2010, 11:54 AM	#3
19-c Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Rapid City, SD Posts: 457	Re: Is this a 35-36 light? well the mounting is something that was home made I just havent taken it off yet. The bucket is the same size as the car buckets i have compared it to. I think it may be a car bucket with a truck or pickup trim ring. Thank you for the help I may be getting closer to cracking the mystery

05-09-2010, 11:58 AM	#4
FL&WVMIKE Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Daytona Beach, Fl & Spencer, W. Va, Posts: 4,442	Re: Is this a 35-36 light? 19-C . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . That shell looks like it could be a '35-6, but that mount is strange, to me. If it is a Ford shell, it should have a Ford script and verbage on the front-top. The '36 trim ring is wider that the '35. It could be that. Compare to a known one. MIKE........

05-09-2010, 12:02 PM	#5
19-c Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Rapid City, SD Posts: 457	Re: Is this a 35-36 light? thanks mike. pay no atention to the mount it is a home made welded "thingamajigger" i just havent removed it yet but there is a threaded bolt like the original 35-36 The buckets are identical to other 35-36 buckets I have its just the stainless trim ring that is puzzling me. in the post by 1oldtimer it looks like i might have a truck trim ring? were truck and pickup buckets the same as car buckets?

05-09-2010, 12:03 PM	#6
19-c Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Rapid City, SD Posts: 457	Re: Is this a 35-36 light? Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) it does have the ford script on the bucket

05-09-2010, 12:06 PM	#7
1oldtimer Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: South Orange County, Ca. Posts: 685	Re: Is this a 35-36 light? it might have a sealed beam conversion ring on it too or a homemade conversion from a truck......i'll see if i have any pics of the kit or the pickup. Last edited by 1oldtimer; 05-09-2010 at 12:17 PM.

05-09-2010, 01:50 PM	#9
ken ct BANNED Join Date: May 2010 Location: stratford,ct Posts: 5,971	Re: Is this a 35-36 light? 36 glass lens is more bulbus [more rounded] than 35 which is shallower and more flat when viewed from the side. trim ring is wider on a 36 also. Buckets might be the same. ken ct.

05-09-2010, 02:08 PM	#10
19-c Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Rapid City, SD Posts: 457	Re: Is this a 35-36 light? Thanks guys! I knew i could count on the Barn I am 99.9% sure what I have here is a pickup or truck light

05-09-2010, 02:23 PM	#11
Tim Brown Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Colfax, CA Posts: 387	Re: Is this a 35-36 light? Its a passenger car light. truck lights are not as deep and pointed in the back. The trim ring from a passenger car will fit truck lights. I switch them all the time.

05-09-2010, 02:42 PM	#12
19-c Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Rapid City, SD Posts: 457	Re: Is this a 35-36 light? Maybe its a car bucket with a truck trim ring on it?

05-09-2010, 05:52 PM	#13
Randy in ca Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 1,647	Re: Is this a 35-36 light? It appears to have a sealed beam in it, and unless it's a conversion that has been installed I'm guessing that its from 1940-41 truck (3/4 ton and up) or a COE from 1941 right up to about 1947. The 1940 lights were non adjustable, however the later ones were. The basic buckets on these trucks were identical to the '35-'36 cars. Need to disassemble and see what's inside. Post some more pic's of what's there if you're still unsure of what you have. Good luck.

05-09-2010, 06:06 PM	#14
jerry grayson Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Atlanta area Posts: 833	Re: Is this a 35-36 light? It looks like 40-41 COE Ford.

05-09-2010, 09:32 PM	#16
Randy in ca Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 1,647	Re: Is this a 35-36 light? I think you've got it aced. 1940 only tho, and not just the COE but all trucks 3/4 ton and up I believe - 1941 went to the adjustable style that had a whole bunch of extra stuff inside.

05-09-2010, 10:00 PM	#17
Lawson Cox Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Above the gnat line in Georgia Posts: 7,009	Re: Is this a 35-36 light? The ring is from a 40 big truck. I have sealed beams in my 35 PU with 40 big truck retaining rings. Looks original, but it is not.

05-09-2010, 10:02 PM	#18
19-c Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Rapid City, SD Posts: 457	Re: Is this a 35-36 light? Thanks a bunch guys!

05-09-2010, 10:31 PM	#19
Don Rogers Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Wildwood, MO. (near St. Louis) Posts: 1,792	Re: Is this a 35-36 light? It's a 35 Ford passenger car light bucket. Trim ring ??????