1939 Pedal Assy

[c277687]

I'm new to flatheads. I've got a 36 slant back torn down to the frame and the one thing I would like to do is add juice brakes. I'm told the 39 pedal assy should fit with no issues but since the 35 to 40 frames were basically the same, can I use a pedal assy from a 1940 without any modifications?

[TJ]

No, the '40 assembly is different. The 39 is the one that will have the correct pieces to line up for your clutch linkage.

[V8COOPMAN]

Originally Posted by TJ

No, the '40 assembly is different. The 39 is the one that will have the correct pieces to line up for your clutch linkage.

As "TJ" says above, the '39 pedal assembly is a one-year-only pedal set that keeps the clutch linkage geometry lined-up as it needs to be for a top-shift transmission, as in the picture BELOW!

Coop

[Newc]

Drake at one time sold a repop version. Newc

[my4dv8]

Ok can someone explain to us what the differences are between 39 and 40 so we understand what works best and why.I mean if you see a 39 40 pedal assembly at a swap meet you want to know the differences, heck i thought they were the same item .

[deuce lover]

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Here are pics,first 2, of the 39 and last 2 are 1940

[uncle buck]

The easiest way to tell is on the 39 the clutch pedal is mounted to a shaft that goes through the frame bracket. On the 40 pedals both pedals mount to a stub shaft machined on each side of the frame mounting bracket

[Juergen]

Uncle Buck covered this

[Zeke3]

Ford redesigned the clutch linkage for 1940 models to free up space for the shift linkage for the side shift transmissions. The clutch linkage was moved to the left as Buck described and the clutch release shaft was changed in the transmission to accommodate the new linkage. A pivot ball and frame stiffener were also added to the lower flange of the X member for the clutch cross shaft.

I have a complete set of 1940 pedals and clutch linkage that I removed from my 1937 if anyone needs a set. I am changing back to the cable brakes and original clutch linkage on my car.

[petehoovie]

Originally Posted by deuce lover

Here are pics,first 2, of the 39 and last 2 are 1940

[Krylon32]

I would recommending sourcing an original Ford 39 pedal assembly over a Drake unit. The originals are forged and the Drake part is cast. There have been reports of the cast pieces failing?

[V8COOPMAN]

Originally Posted by Krylon32

I would recommending sourcing an original Ford 39 pedal assembly over a Drake unit. The originals are forged and the Drake part is cast. There have been reports of the cast pieces failing?

If I'm not mistaken, I believe Bob's '39 pedal assemblies are no more!

Coop

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[barnfind08]

I messaged this gentleman that I have one for sale.

[Krylon32]

V8-You are probably right. I can't keep up with Back Order Bob. Seems like everytime I need something he's out.

[JM 35 Sedan]

At one time the Early Ford Garage located in Covina California sold a conversion kit for adding hydraulic brakes to 35/36 Fords that allowed the use of the stock 35/36 brake/clutch pedal assembly, that was completely bolt on, requiring no modifications to the stock frame. This is how I installed hydraulic brakes on one of my 35's. It was not a cheap conversion, but it met my goals of not F---ing up anything on a completely stock car & frame.

[deuce lover]

Years ago I saw that installation in a 35 coupe.What I did not care for was that the MC hung below the center X member behind the saddle.The 39 pedal assy is the ticket.

[blucar]

When i converted the brakes on my '36 in 1952 from mechanical to hydraulic I harvested everything from a '41 Ford, front spindles and drums/wheels. The master cylinder/peddle assembly proved to be a difficult issue, I ended up keeping the '36 peddle assembly putting the master cylinder where the battery had been utilizing a longer rod from the the peddle assembly to the master cylinder.
I had already relocated the battery into the trunk behind the seat on the passenger side, when I put dual exhaust on the car.
Within a couple of years the master cylinder location proved to be a problem, searching for a solution I found that a '39 peddle assembly was a perfect solution. With a few minor adjustments to the bolt pattern the '39 assembly solved the problem. Through out the years I have converted several cars, including my brothers '37 Ford 4dr. Many years ago I acquired a '39 peddle assembly that I have not used, it hangs from the rafters in my garage..

[petehoovie]

Originally Posted by blucar

Many years ago I acquired a '39 peddle assembly that I have not used, it hangs from the rafters in my garage..

[Newc]

I have seen a 'Bootleg' conversion of a '40, by pressing out the cross shaft, honing the hole and using an early clutch pedal and shaft. NO bushing for cross shaft! Newc

[cas3]

Blucar, are those antique "fire bombs" I see hanging in the net?