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Old 03-13-2024, 05:15 PM   #21
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Was there any resolution regarding this?

1954 FORD 239 S/T THROTTLE RETURN SPRING -

PN - B4A 9737-C

2.92" L - .812" OD - 17 COILS
I don't think so. The pictures of Daves linkage are nothing like the linkage on my two '54 239s. The kicker is, my brackets are not alike between the Skyliner and the Victoria. I came across a spring today while going through some old parts and it reminded me of the "farmer's fix" noted in post 1 that I have. I'm pretty sure that the spring from the linkage to the carb hold down bolt isn't correct but I really don't know. I can post a couple pictures tomorrow but I would like to revive this thread if the OP has found a solution.
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Old 03-13-2024, 06:11 PM   #22
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I'm pretty sure that the spring from the linkage to the carb hold down bolt isn't correct but I really don't know. I can post a couple pictures tomorrow but I would like to revive this thread if the OP has found a solution.
If one or both of your cars ( 1954 239CI) has a S/T, the photos will help as for some reason or another the ILL's I post won't show on this forum.


Where is Dave BTW?
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Default Re: Throttle linkage and spring on engine side of firewall

The car is a standard trans. Most of what I see here has to do with auto trans. See # 12 response.
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Old 03-13-2024, 08:24 PM   #24
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Both cars have automatics. I also have some linkage from a '54 SW that had an auto, but it is bent and useless. The picture from the parts catalog isn't big enough to make out and if magnified becomes a blur. I can't find an illustration in my catalog, perhaps someone can give me the page number. I'd be interested in seeing the standard trans linkage too. At least the throttle return spring placement would be the same.
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Old 03-14-2024, 09:16 AM   #25
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- 1954 FORD ACCELERATOR LINKAGE(S) ILLUSTRATIONS -

1954 ACCEL LINKAGE (S/T & O/D)
ILL SECTION 97 PG 332

FOR COMPARISON -

1954 ACCEL LINKAGE (F/M)
ILL SECTION 97 PG 334

The ILL shown in POST #14 is incorrect. Disregard.
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- 1954 FORD ACCELERATOR LINKAGE(S) ILLUSTRATIONS -

1954 ACCEL LINKAGE (S/T & O/D)
ILL SECTION 97 PG 332

FOR COMPARISON -

1954 ACCEL LINKAGE (F/M)
ILL SECTION 97 PG 334

The ILL shown in POST #14 is incorrect. Disregard.
Thankyou for that but I'm still confused. There is only one spring shown. Where does the second spring go?
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Old 03-15-2024, 02:55 AM   #27
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Thankyou for that but I'm still confused. There is only one spring shown. Where does the second spring go?
There is only one spring for the 1954 239CI, whether S/T or A/T.

Both of you cars is a 2V?

Can you show a photo of the 2nd spring install?
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Old 03-15-2024, 03:18 AM   #28
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This is on a '55, 272 V8, but the setup is the same on a '54 239.

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This post is causing the confusion. 1954 239CI linkage is completely different from 1955.

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POST # 11 Under CORRECTION Is Also Incorrect.
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This post is causing the confusion. 1954 239CI linkage is completely different from 1955.

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POST # 11 Under CORRECTION Is Also Incorrect.
OK. I think I have what I need. The yellow tape is to show where the eyelets are on the bracket currently installed on the Skyliner and on the bracket I dug out of my parts stash that was taken off the Victoria. The Victoria one matches the bracket shown in the catalog. I wonder what the odd one came from. The spring was also in the parts stash and I assume it is the correct piece. All I have to do is remove the linkage from the engine, swap the brackets and reinstall, then install the spring. EZ-PZ.
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Old 03-15-2024, 10:08 AM   #30
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The PN for the correct spring is B4A 9737-C. This may help you find a NOS or repro.

When you feel you have it assembled correctly, please show a new photo.
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Old 03-15-2024, 05:12 PM   #31
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That looks a heck of a lot like a throttle spring you can get at Jegs. Think it comes as a kit, one goes through the other, and you would use the one that looks like this.
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Old 03-17-2024, 12:05 PM   #32
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I was kidding about EZ-PZ. Some day my back and knees will forgive me. I swapped the brackets, took another look at page 334 and here is the spring as it hangs from the bolt. You can see the machined groove to the left of the spring. Hooked up it looks sketchy to me with all that force applied to the end of the bolt but apparently this is the correct installation.
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Old 03-17-2024, 12:11 PM   #33
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Don't feel like THE LONE STRANGER. Once I finally position myself, either I cannot focus on it or have forgotten to take a tool or part down with me ...

How does the throttle feel? It looks good to me.
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Old 03-17-2024, 12:54 PM   #34
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I'm too short to bend over the fender. To reach the bolts I had to climb in on top of the engine, and yes, it took a couple trips to get the right tools.

Throttle feels good but I can't start the engine until I get some other work finished.
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Old 03-22-2024, 04:39 PM   #35
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My 57 has an automatic. Does anyone know the theory of operation of that linkage? I mean that little pair of tirangle plates and the little spring attached to it? The manual transmission cars do not have that little gizzmo on them? I mean why could a guy not extend the plate/shaft on the throttle, and pick up the opposite side and rig a cable down tot he arm on the trans and acheive the same thing?

My research, including factory manuals doesn't even broach the topic of how that little gizzmo works.
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You might start a new thread. I think this one has petered out.
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hmmm, maybe
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Old 03-24-2024, 02:17 AM   #38
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That design is to ensure the TV ROD actuates correctly. You having trouble with yours?
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