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Old 07-25-2023, 03:40 PM   #1
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I want to replace the rear wheel bearings in my coupe with the 36/48 bearings , I have some new old stock ford bearings but I can't find the sleeves by themselves to install in the hub , I see the axle stub sleeves but no hub sleeves just by themselves .
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Old 07-25-2023, 04:19 PM   #2
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The bearing stub races on the model A are smaller diameter. The wheel hubs follow the larger size bearing. Several things can be done to make the smaller bearings fit but it would most likely affect other things as well.

Correction: It's the bearing that's smaller. The A & B used the large bearing with no sleeves in the hub.

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Old 07-25-2023, 06:36 PM   #3
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I haven’t found a source for the hub sleeve races by themselves.The bearings that come with those races don’t hold up and I wouldn’t use them.I found now v8 bearings on eBay and am using them.Dennis
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Old 07-25-2023, 06:38 PM   #4
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I meant to say new old stock
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Old 07-25-2023, 07:05 PM   #5
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I converted those bearings to modern roller bearings. No problems since.
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Old 07-25-2023, 11:16 PM   #6
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What bearings and races did you use, I already have some new old stock ford v-8 wheel bearings so I thought I would do the hub sleeves and axle sleeves too. your idea sounds much better. Anyone know what material the hub sleeves are machined from? I would consider machining some if I cant buy them .
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What bearings and races did you use, I already have some new old stock ford v-8 wheel bearings so I thought I would do the hub sleeves and axle sleeves too. your idea sounds much better. Anyone know what material the hub sleeves are machined from? I would consider machining some if I cant buy them .
I used modern NU1010 bearings. You guys pay a lot more for them than we do but I'm sure my vendor will send you what you need.
If you send me your email address, I will send an article I wrote about the job
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Synchro, would you be able to share the article here?



I'm sure more would be interested in the conversion
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Synchro, would you be able to share the article here?



I'm sure more would be interested in the conversion
It'll go for pages but I'll do it since I have been asked. Stay tuned I'll have to find it.
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Old 07-26-2023, 07:38 AM   #10
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Model A Rear Wheel Bearing Modification.
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Old 07-27-2023, 03:18 PM   #11
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Try calling around. Websites might only list the kit with the bearings but the vendors might be willing to sell just the sleeve. NOS bearings are the way to go unless you want to use Synchro's method.
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I think Snyder's has the sleeves. At least they aren't marked as out of stock. They are listed under the wheel hub category.
https://www.snydersantiqueauto.com/p...6365&cat=41720
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Old 07-28-2023, 12:10 PM   #13
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I think Snyder's has the sleeves. At least they aren't marked as out of stock. They are listed under the wheel hub category.
https://www.snydersantiqueauto.com/p...6365&cat=41720
Thanks for the info. those are for the axle housing , I need to sleeve the hubs and I want to use my N.O.S V-8 bearings, It looks like I will have to make the sleeves for the hubs rather than buy the whole kit which has inferior aftermarket bearings, any Idea on the best material to make them from.
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Old 07-28-2023, 01:54 PM   #14
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36 was the year the small bearing started, the hub had a sleeve that was replaceable that can be used
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Old 07-28-2023, 02:39 PM   #15
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I see what the OP is trying to accomplish now. The 1936 & later banjo hubs used the smaller 68 series bearings and the 68-1236-A bearing sleeve. They also had a protective washer that fit under the sleeve to prevent the bearing from wearing against the hub. I'm not sure if the hub needs work to fit the sleeve or if the protective plate would fit since I just found good hubs to replace the OEM model A ones and used model B large bearings to repair my old worn out ones.

Those 68-1236-A sleeves should be available.
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Old 08-01-2023, 02:59 PM   #16
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I finally found the wheel bearing races for the hub, Snyders carry them when available , the part number is A-1115-RK2, The Price IS 44.95 EACH. Just thought I would pass this along, Now I am wondering if the washers are necessary for the model a hub ? I cant find a listing for the washers/thrust spacers.
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Old 08-07-2023, 03:53 AM   #17
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Model A Rear Wheel Bearing Modification.
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Synchro - I for one disagree.

While I do not currently have a wheel bearing problem I would certainly consider a modern alternative when I do have to replace the old original style bearings.

Your write up would certainly be (have been?) a good guide when that time comes.
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Old 08-07-2023, 09:41 PM   #18
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Synchro - I for one disagree.

While I do not currently have a wheel bearing problem I would certainly consider a modern alternative when I do have to replace the old original style bearings.

Your write up would certainly be (have been?) a good guide when that time comes.
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Old 08-10-2023, 07:39 PM   #19
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BEWARE that SOME if NOT MOST FORD spare parts " specialists"/vendors selling these inner race /sleeves as "USA made".In my/our experience unless you can find,locate&source N.O.S. FORD/BOWER/HYATT/RBC Sydners &others will be either chinese or indian made!.FWIW/IMHO i'd go the way of using modern metric machined needle roller bearings&inner race instead of the antiquated wound journal roller bearing kind&type.I DON'T understand WHY FORD would design ,engineer&use wound journal roller bearings where just about EVERYBODY ELSE was using tapered roller bearings!!!!!..... SMH .
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Old 08-11-2023, 12:15 PM   #20
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The wound roller bearings from Hyatt are actually "shock absorbing" roller bearings. I saw this described in a Hyatt catalog at work. When hitting a load the rollers would move axially, thus limiting excessive contact stress. The added benefit is the slot in the helix applies lubricant across the race.
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