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11-21-2016, 01:19 PM | #21 |
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Interesting that this just came up about bearings,in the past week we have had a little discussion going on in my garage about them.A fellow I do some work for went out of his way to buy Timken bearings and hubs for his Caravan.He spent extra money,waited,and got Timken.He is a little upset after I showed him,made in China on the parts.If the picture is clear enough you will see,made by select manufacturers for Timken.The box is marked,printed in the USA.The price was double of the store brand bearings.The story used to be that the first three digits in a bar code told you country of orgin.Only partially true.The US,Aisa,and Europe all have different readings and applications of the bar codes.Some tell the actually country of orgin,and others tell where the company is headquartered.The parts rep gave us a little education last week of how the bar codes,and manufacturers can be very misleading as to where the parts came from.
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For a while I would search on E-Bay for the various part numbers applied to bearings sized for the Model-A and 30's era Ford cars and was able to find a lot of older NOS and NORS bearings made in the North America and Europe, the good stuff. Some businesses or government agencies would sell off whole lots of bearings that were obsolete to their purposes and often I was the only bidder. I no longer need to do this and, while there isn't as much of it showing up any more, it is worth a try if you want to avoid the worries concerning the Third World stuff in today's pipeline.
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So So So true. You can't just judge the name brand anymore. You have to do a little research. I used to drive a Nissan Altima and my friends said I can't believe you are driving that foreign piece of crap........(Built in Smyrna, Tennessee) Now I drive a good 'ole American General Motors Cadillac. (built in Ramos Arizpe, Mexico) I'm happy that they did move the Cadillac plant back to Spring Hill, TN and create or retain 1,800 American jobs, but my little Caddy is from south of the border. Oh, and 2 of the four wheel bearing assemblies on that cadillac went out at 60,000 miles. I bought MOOG on Amazon for $125 each, which is actually a subset of Federal-Mogul.
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not going to argue against that either - all look like plastic easter eggs and sound like electric razors.
the chinese though will copy almost 98% of a BMW m3 or something then put different headlights on it and claim it looks nothing alike.
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BMW has been manufacturing cars in China for almost 15 years. They broke the 1,000,000 mark in 2015 http://www.bmwblog.com/2015/01/08/1-...chinese-plant/ The cars made in China for the Chinese market have some differences from the BMWs you see in the US. Could this be the reason for the different headlights? http://www.bmw.com.cn/zh_CN/index.html
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Now to be fair, car makers have been copying each other for ages. They want to sell what the customer proves they will buy...
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I recall a commotion back in the 60s when it came to light that the Japanese had built a number of new industrial complexes, each with its own name. One was called USA. Anything made there was correctly labelled "Made in USA" People read it as "Made in U.S.A." and thought it was made in the North America USA. Cunning? YES, untruthful? NO.
There were also complexes called Sheffield, England, Birmingham and others.
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You buy import products you support them and put yourself out of business.
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With great respect for this subject: god bless the Chinese but ...
1. It is most difficult to actually "see" what "was" ......... and what "is" happening in our World with our so-called U.S.A.'s Free Trade with Japan & China. It is not Bert's fault, it is not Bratton's fault, not Snyder's, etc., fault. 2. It is also increasingly difficult to make predictions years ago that actually come true; however, one "Business Person" did it in 1988, (about 28 years ago), when he met as a youngster and interviewed with Oprah. 3. There is a .... "YouTube Oprah Interview Video Over 25 Years Ago" ... that is recirculating rapidly today; and, interestingly, this heartfelt prediction appears to be happening today as we speak ....... and ...... even with our most lovely Model A parts. LOL Last edited by H. L. Chauvin; 11-21-2016 at 06:10 PM. Reason: typo |
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http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/feature...ai-motor-show/ im talking about things like that ^^^ http://www.bmwblog.com/2008/12/19/bm...nese-x5-clone/ or that ^^^
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Actually if i didnt buy from them i would be out of business..to stay competitive with Joe Blows I'm forced to... MOST people only care about the price of the job, not the quality of the part being used.
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11-21-2016, 06:57 PM | #38 |
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When something broke down in the field and it couldn't be fixed properly on sight we "Jerry Rigged" it to get it back to have it properly fixed.
I'm sure other soldiers have heard that phrase before. As for as Chinese products go, I visited Hong Kong back in the 60s for three days, I had no complaints about the Chinese ladies!!!!
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My iPhone says it is DESIGNED in California; ASSEMBLED in China. No mention on the case as to where the components were made. Most probably a plethera of places.
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