40 Front Axle With 49 F2 Brakes?

[Sivarti]

So that confirms what I was starting to believe. Now back to the drums and hubs. Am I looking for 42-48 car (47 truck) hubs and drums? I'm sure I'll still need a spacer ring for the 35 wires as well.

[Sivarti]

Also I found a guy that will trade me my 49 axle, drums and backing plates and a set of 35 headlights (I keep spindles) for a complete 53 f100 front axle. Am I money ahead?

http://www.hotrodhotline.com/md/html...arly_fords.php

Found this too.

[quickchange34]

If you run the 35 wires you will need the spacer rings for the outside of the drums to support the wire wheels.

[rich b]

Kinda hard to tell the R/H '48-'52 truck spindle from a '42-'48 car spindle from the OP's picture.

Picture of dirty spindle is truck, painted spindle is car, see what I mean.

Need to measure, inner bearing area on a truck spindle is about 1-5/16" while the car spindle is about 1-3/16".

Or look at the L/H spindle, truck has bolt on steering arm and car has integral arm.

Point is; you can't use early car hubs on '48 up truck spindles due to inner bearing size.

[skidmarks]

Originally Posted by rich b

Kinda hard to tell the R/H '48-'52 truck spindle from a '42-'48 car spindle from the OP's picture.

Picture of dirty spindle is truck, painted spindle is car, see what I mean.

Need to measure, inner bearing area on a truck spindle is about 1-5/16" while the car spindle is about 1-3/16".

Or look at the L/H spindle, truck has bolt on steering arm and car has integral arm.

Point is; you can't use early car hubs on '48 up truck spindles due to inner bearing size.

Can you swap the inner bearing out of the 8 lug drum hub into a 48 and earlier car? To use the F2 spindle or just go with car spjndles?

[rich b]

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Don't think so.

Looked a little in the past and could not find a way to make it work.

The F series bearings are larger in OD and won't fit the race in the early hub.

There are no bearings listed that match the small outside diameter of the early Ford bearings with the larger F series inner diameter, probably too small a difference in size
between ID and OD to physically manufacture one.

Doesn't help in this case; but it's easy to go the other way tho and put F series hubs on early spindles, the 14116 bearing has the small inner diameter combined with large outer diameter.

[skidmarks]

The only time I used the 48/52 spindles was with the whole F1 brakes on a 40 ford but had to make a tierod with the special right tierod end with the hole to hook up the cross steer and cut off the funky left side arm for the truck drag link. Have also used the f2 bendix on a early ford but used the car spindles. Good to know you cant use the car drums on the truck spindle. The F1 and F100 brakes stop better and parts are cheaper then the lockheed brakes

[rich b]

I've used them a couple of times along with F-100 brakes. I trimmed the ugly off the L/H spindle and used bolt on steering arms.

I only used them since I already had the spindles, good truck bearings, and some steering arms sitting around, if you have buy stuff, it's probably cheaper to pick up the car spindles
to start with.

I used cross steer, just had the sling shot top arm on to show someone how it fit.

[Sivarti]

Very nice. I'll be looking to source those. I spent the entire evening reading and came up with this. The 49 f1-f3 spindles were the same. The 53f100 drums will fit with a 40.00 speedway bearing kit. I'll need to source the steering arms and probably go with my second choice of rims. Ditch the '35s and go with some circa 40 rims. Headed out in the morning to get the 53 axle and drag it home. If anyone has experience with someone who sells the arms please point me down that path. Thanks a ton for all the help.

[rich b]

The inner bearing in Speedway's kit fits the smaller pass car spindles, not your F series spindles. Check the '49 and '53 bearings; probably enough good ones between the two sets to get you going.

[Sivarti]

Again thanks for the help everyone. So when it all came out in the wash I ended the day with a pair of 49 F series spindles and 53 F series brakes. I now know without adapters that space the wheel out my '35 wires won't be ideal. I found an article on line that someone scanned that gives all the Timken bearing numbers for this swap, I'll link it once im on a real PC later.

My next step is to find arms and probably some '40/up 16" steelies. Hope everyone had a great weekend, mine was productive and I learned a lot. Having just turned 40 I can honestly say nobody I know has the knowledge base I find here.