Go Back   The Ford Barn > General Discussion > Early V8 (1932-53)

Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements)

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 05-04-2023, 03:36 AM   #1
waynet
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2021
Posts: 101
Default 7RT Carburetor

Hi Folks,

Is there anything special about a 7RT Carburetor and why are they used mainly on pickup trucks? Is it a power or economy carburetor?
waynet is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-04-2023, 06:28 AM   #2
1952henry
Senior Member
 
1952henry's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: North Dakota
Posts: 1,621
Default Re: 7RT Carburetor

Same as the rest except for the air horn. Oh, and though carrying the 7rt tag, there was an 8RT which had a hand throttle. That, along with the choke, were cable operated.
__________________
I dig coal, which provides motivation for EVs.

Last edited by 1952henry; 05-04-2023 at 07:34 AM.
1952henry is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements)
Old 05-04-2023, 09:27 AM   #3
ford38v8
Senior Member
 
ford38v8's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: SF Bay Area
Posts: 6,646
Default Re: 7RT Carburetor

All model 94 carbs were functionally the same. Differences were in how they were controlled, how they were vented, the air cleaner mounting ring, and the distributor vacuum port. Nozzle bar differences didn’t affect functionality. Power valve and main jets were interchangeable, matched to expected operational conditions.
__________________
Alan
ford38v8 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 05-04-2023, 11:12 AM   #4
petehoovie
Senior Member
 
petehoovie's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2015
Posts: 8,151
Default Re: 7RT Carburetor

Quote:
Originally Posted by 1952henry View Post
Same as the rest except for the air horn. Oh, and though carrying the 7rt tag, there was an 8RT which had a hand throttle. That, along with the choke, were cable operated.


__________________
The only thing nice about being imperfect is the joy it brings to others....

"Silver rings, your butt! Them's washers!"
"We shot our way out of that town for a dollar's worth of steel holes!" - from 'The Wild Bunch' - 1969

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NReUd2_0u0
petehoovie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-04-2023, 01:30 PM   #5
waynet
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2021
Posts: 101
Default Re: 7RT Carburetor

Ok, so the internals are the same except for the air horn which will accommodate an oil bath type air filter?
waynet is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-04-2023, 03:14 PM   #6
flatjack9
Senior Member
 
flatjack9's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Oshkosh, Wi
Posts: 4,527
Default Re: 7RT Carburetor

Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements)
Yes
flatjack9 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-04-2023, 04:06 PM   #7
1952henry
Senior Member
 
1952henry's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: North Dakota
Posts: 1,621
Default Re: 7RT Carburetor

Thanks, Petehoovie.
__________________
I dig coal, which provides motivation for EVs.
1952henry is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-05-2023, 12:24 PM   #8
rotorwrench
Senior Member
 
rotorwrench's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: San Antonio, Texas
Posts: 16,436
Default Re: 7RT Carburetor

The Ford Bonus Built Trucks had the distinction of being the first of the 8BA family to make production in late 1947. 7=1947, R=V8, and T=Truck since those parts were designed in 1947. The distributor is part of the package since the two work together as a Holley designed system. Ford was always changing things so it didn't take long for a change in 1948 (8BA). The passenger cars had different air filters and eventually started to go toward automatic chokes while trucks were still more manual and utilitarian in nature.
rotorwrench is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-06-2023, 04:52 AM   #9
waynet
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2021
Posts: 101
Default Re: 7RT Carburetor

Quote:
Originally Posted by rotorwrench View Post
The Ford Bonus Built Trucks had the distinction of being the first of the 8BA family to make production in late 1947. 7=1947, R=V8, and T=Truck since those parts were designed in 1947. The distributor is part of the package since the two work together as a Holley designed system. Ford was always changing things so it didn't take long for a change in 1948 (8BA). The passenger cars had different air filters and eventually started to go toward automatic chokes while trucks were still more manual and utilitarian in nature.
Interesting...... thanks.
waynet is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-06-2023, 11:18 AM   #10
1952henry
Senior Member
 
1952henry's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: North Dakota
Posts: 1,621
Default Re: 7RT Carburetor

IMG_0134.jpeg

An 8RT I restored. 7RT body and air horn with cable choke, throttle, and bracket.
__________________
I dig coal, which provides motivation for EVs.
1952henry is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-06-2023, 12:20 PM   #11
petehoovie
Senior Member
 
petehoovie's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2015
Posts: 8,151
Default Re: 7RT Carburetor

Quote:
Originally Posted by 1952henry View Post
Attachment 515699

An 8RT I restored. 7RT body and air horn with cable choke, throttle, and bracket.
__________________
The only thing nice about being imperfect is the joy it brings to others....

"Silver rings, your butt! Them's washers!"
"We shot our way out of that town for a dollar's worth of steel holes!" - from 'The Wild Bunch' - 1969

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NReUd2_0u0
petehoovie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-06-2023, 01:09 PM   #12
1952henry
Senior Member
 
1952henry's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: North Dakota
Posts: 1,621
Default Re: 7RT Carburetor

Thanks, again! There is a caveat to parts interchanging; that relates to nozzle bars. The later 7RTs, as well as EABs had the high lift nozzle bars as opposed to the inverted V style. Not a big deal as long as the top has the recess to clear the high lift nozzles.
__________________
I dig coal, which provides motivation for EVs.
1952henry is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-10-2023, 03:32 AM   #13
waynet
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2021
Posts: 101
Default Re: 7RT Carburetor

Could anyone explain how a worn throttle shaft would affect the the tuning on a 7RT/94 carb? Plugs and exhaust always appear sooty black.
waynet is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-10-2023, 04:42 AM   #14
1952henry
Senior Member
 
1952henry's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: North Dakota
Posts: 1,621
Default Re: 7RT Carburetor

That may be leaky power valve. Worn throttle shaft would create vacuum leak.
__________________
I dig coal, which provides motivation for EVs.
1952henry is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-10-2023, 04:56 AM   #15
ford38v8
Senior Member
 
ford38v8's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: SF Bay Area
Posts: 6,646
Default Re: 7RT Carburetor

Quote:
Originally Posted by waynet View Post
Could anyone explain how a worn throttle shaft would affect the the tuning on a 7RT/94 carb? Plugs and exhaust always appear sooty black.
It seems to me that one would have little to do with the other. The "tuning" of any 94 would consist of the setting of the float, the adjustment of the idle mixture, the setting of the accelerator pump stroke, and the idle speed. Anything else such as the main jet size or the value of the power valve would be determined by application, not adjustable as in tuning. A well worn throttle shaft could lean out the mixture a little, so it may have been called out on a rebuild invoice as required replacement for proper tuning.
__________________
Alan
ford38v8 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 05-11-2023, 03:11 AM   #16
waynet
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2021
Posts: 101
Default Re: 7RT Carburetor

Thanks everyone. Looks like a carby rebuild. Any suggestions where to buy a good rebuild kit including replacement throttle shaft?
waynet is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-11-2023, 05:14 AM   #17
1952henry
Senior Member
 
1952henry's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: North Dakota
Posts: 1,621
Default Re: 7RT Carburetor

Daytona parts for kits. Vintage speed or speedway for shaft. Easy enough to rebuild yourself. Once apart, give it a day or two soak in a closed container of acetone, followed by a good blasting of carb cleaner through all passages.
__________________
I dig coal, which provides motivation for EVs.

Last edited by 1952henry; 05-11-2023 at 07:13 AM.
1952henry is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-13-2023, 04:36 AM   #18
waynet
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2021
Posts: 101
Default Re: 7RT Carburetor

Quote:
Originally Posted by 1952henry View Post
Daytona parts for kits. Vintage speed or speedway for shaft. Easy enough to rebuild yourself. Once apart, give it a day or two soak in a closed container of acetone, followed by a good blasting of carb cleaner through all passages.
Thanks for advice.
waynet is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-13-2023, 12:13 PM   #19
38 coupe
Senior Member
 
38 coupe's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: South Texas
Posts: 1,631
Default Re: 7RT Carburetor

Regarding the first question, a worn throttle shaft allows a small amount of air to leak into the carburetor around the throttle shaft. I have never experienced this having a meaningful effect on tuning, I have always been able to slow the idle down with the idle speed adjustment and smooth the idle with the mixture screws.
If I was attempting to run multiple carburetors I might have a different experience, but have no interest since my stock V8s will run to my speed limits and road handling already (75 mph in central Texas).
38 coupe is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements)


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:28 AM.