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Old 04-28-2023, 05:43 AM   #1
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Just moved the body across to get access to the frame number . This truck is an early 1930 . The number starts STAR A 285 which puts the truck as a Feb 1930 what I expected . Only one A not AA I wonder why , not fitted with heavy duty clutch on assembly ? The numbers are original and not been altered . Has anyone else seen this ?

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Old 04-28-2023, 06:03 AM   #2
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I can't explain the single A on a AA frame, but by any chance does the engine number match?
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Old 04-28-2023, 07:57 AM   #3
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The original engine long gone .

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Old 04-28-2023, 02:37 PM   #4
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and how do you know it was never "pieced"?
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Old 04-28-2023, 02:52 PM   #5
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The truck has the heavy 131 1/2" chassis with heavy front axle and brakes .It has the bevel back axle with the 6.6 ratio . It has the 4 speed trans . It has the 82A cab and the bayonet gas cap and 30/31 headlamps . There is no way it could be "pieced" but it does have a 1936 Ford platform bed on it .

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Old 04-28-2023, 06:42 PM   #6
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For a period of time the AA was not used. Simply a single A. My May 131 has the AA.
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Old 04-28-2023, 10:26 PM   #7
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Default Re: AA Truck serial number .

It may have to do with where it was assembled. Maybe in England they did not stamp the heavy commercial frame with the AA.
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Old 04-28-2023, 11:47 PM   #8
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Maybe the original engine was stamped wrong with only a single A ?
things happen (Friday at end of shift)
Engine installed into frame and frame just stamped with matching #
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Old 04-29-2023, 12:24 AM   #9
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English built trucks also have AA . This one I imported from sunny Chandler Arizona .

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Old 04-29-2023, 01:20 AM   #10
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Does the frame number match the Title/Registration/Bill of Sale? If so I wouldn't lose any sleep over it.
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Old 04-29-2023, 01:43 AM   #11
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This is the problem it has an AZ VIN assigned title which my DMV will not accept hence me finding the number on the frame . The UK DMV will accept the original frame serial so I can get a UK title .

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I think you answered your own question-assigned.
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Old 04-29-2023, 11:25 AM   #13
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Just get your UK title assigned with the frame #(star A285.....) put the body back on and enjoy. The single A is odd though, mysteries lost to time
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The single A is odd though, mysteries lost to time
It is not a mystery. It is a documented fact. Well known in the AA Community.
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It is not a mystery. It is a documented fact. Well known in the AA Community.
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Rather than making a statement like this, why not just provide some hints as to the
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Had to do with the clutch springs AA were heavier than the car and then Ford went to the same springs on all hence A and then went back to AA on the trucks?????
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Old 05-02-2023, 01:51 AM   #17
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I think pj has got it. Maybe for a short period in 1930 all vehicles had the same clutch so only one "A" on my truck . Any thoughts ?

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Old 05-02-2023, 09:52 AM   #18
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The single A was only used in the Trucks from February to April 1928.
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Old 05-02-2023, 10:53 PM   #19
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Default Re: AA Truck serial number .

I was going through my archives and found a note that corroborates what PJ and Bob said. This does not answer why a 1930 frame would have only one "A" though. These older trucks would have the worm drive rear axle.

"Note – For about 2-1/2 months, starting mid February 1928 (with engine ID A-26268), the AA’s used the same multiple-disc clutch spring as was used for the A chassis. Consequently, during this period, the engine ID had an “A” prefix. Refer to the “Indianapolis Service Letters” dated February 23rd and May 15th 1928. An AA with engine and frame ID of AA-98977 has been found. This is a late April 1928 number and helps define the end of the “A” prefixed ID’s for the AA’s."
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Just moved the body across to get access to the frame number . This truck is an early 1930 . The number starts STAR A 285 which puts the truck as a Feb 1930 what I expected . Only one A not AA I wonder why , not fitted with heavy duty clutch on assembly ? The numbers are original and not been altered . Has anyone else seen this ?

According to the chart I have, *A285XXX* would be a July 1928. See below.

☆A256479☆ Experimental engine having no external oil return pipe, numbered July 16, 1928
A / AF 256001 295707 July 1928
A / AF 295708 384867 August 1928
A / AF 384868 419000 September

https://www.fordgarage.com/pages/ABenginenumbers.htm
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