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Alienbaby17 · 10-23-2011, 09:51 PM

I bought this cab on Saturday morning. The seller wasn't super knowledgeable on it and had thought it was a '29. From what I know about Model A's it's is my belief that it is a '30 or '31.

This cab was built from a sedan at some point in its life. I'm trying to understand exactly what year car it was assembled from. I'm also curious if it was built from a tudor or fordor sedan. I'd like to know so that I might be able to order some pieces I need to help get it back into shape.

Here are a couple of photos I have of it.

Thanks in advance for any help.

Jay

a sedan · 10-23-2011, 10:44 PM

Looks to be 30 31 I think 2 door sedan. Looks like a good start. Nice find.

Modelakid31 · 10-23-2011, 10:59 PM

Is the dash the early style or the later style. If it has the later style dash it was made after April of 1930. If it's the early style then you know its an early 1930.

Dave Mellor NJ · 10-23-2011, 11:23 PM

As you know this was a very common practise in the old days. You hear that people saved money on taxes and insurance by having a truck registered in the depression. I think trucks were simply more useful on the farm. Regardless you see plenty of these conversions. I think this is most likely altered from a tudor. One reason is the door and roof piece above the door are the same on a truck or tudor(the door is 29-1/4", 273/4" on a 4dr). The tudor has 2 vertical seams on the back corners but they can be smoothed out

Dave Mellor NJ · 10-23-2011, 11:29 PM

The 4dr has no seams. I can see the inside of the seam thru the window on your top picture

Dave Mellor NJ · 10-23-2011, 11:33 PM

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The beltline is very slightly different too. the top half-round looks a little wider on the 4dr

CHuDWah · 10-23-2011, 11:36 PM

Definitely 30-31 and I'd say Tudor. The back of the cab is not the same as a pickup. A sedan curves under more at the bottom - a pickup is straighter.

Tudortomnz · 10-24-2011, 01:59 AM

A '30, '31 Tudor, what we term here as 'trucked'. Very common practise 'down under' for old sedans to be made into a pickup on farms or for a tradesman to use before they were finally worn out in the 1960's. They look good now & are very practical as a restored Model A.

John Duden · 10-24-2011, 07:56 AM

I think this was on ebay some time back, me and my brother were trying to buy it.

jkcrosson · 10-24-2011, 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Don Turley

I beleive you meant to say "instrument panel".

On a Model A Ford, the "dash" is the interior molding that goes across the width of the car, below the windshield. The "instrument panel" is the plated piece that houses the gauges.
The "dash" is the same, early or late 1930. It is the "instrument panel" that changed with the introduction of the round speedometer. There is a different "dash" for open and closed style Model A's.

I agree whole heartly with you on this issue. I ordered dash panel screws from snyder's catalog and received instrument panel screws. I called and questioned them and was told that if I needed screws for the Dash, I should order Dash Rail Screws.

31apickup · 10-24-2011, 10:53 AM

That was definately started as a 30-31 Tudor Sedan. You could watch for a truck cab back and make it into a proper cab, or look for the back half of a tudor.

Alienbaby17 · 10-24-2011, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by 31apickup

That was definately started as a 30-31 Tudor Sedan. You could watch for a truck cab back and make it into a proper cab, or look for the back half of a tudor.

I'll pass on that. I'm not out to have some show quality point-perfect restoration. I like it the way it is with its interesting and unique history.

Thanks for all of the info. guys. I'm happy to know exactly what it started as.

Jay

flatheadz-forever · 10-24-2011, 06:45 PM

Hey I know you said you like the way it is but I know where there is a 1930-1931 pickup cab back for only 150 bucks pm me if intrested

Jerry Parr WI · 10-25-2011, 10:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alienbaby17

I bought this cab on Saturday morning. The seller wasn't super knowledgeable on it and had thought it was a '29. From what I know about Model A's it's is my belief that it is a '30 or '31.

This cab was built from a sedan at some point in its life. I'm trying to understand exactly what year car it was assembled from. I'm also curious if it was built from a tudor or fordor sedan. I'd like to know so that I might be able to order some pieces I need to help get it back into shape.

Here are a couple of photos I have of it.

Thanks in advance for any help.

Jay

If your interested in converting it back to a tudor I have a good body cut at the cowl that is looking for a home.

Alienbaby17 · 10-25-2011, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Jerry Parr WI

If your interested in converting it back to a tudor I have a good body cut at the cowl that is looking for a home.

Like I just said to the other guy- I'm leaving it like it is- I like it that way. Thanks, anyway.

Hitchhiker · 10-26-2011, 01:33 AM

Even though I have a extra truck cab back, I'd leave it the way it is too. It's traveled a long way with the back it has and it is a neat part of history. I kinda like it.

farmputzer · 10-26-2011, 09:14 AM

My pickup cab looks just like yours and was a tudor to start with. When I got it several years ago it was on a frame with engine (not running) and pickup box. Originally from the Winona area, now in Andover, and driven most frequently. I love my truck!

10-23-2011, 09:51 PM	#1
Alienbaby17 Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Twin Cities, Minnesota Posts: 91	Need help ID'ing Model A sedan to truck pieces I bought this cab on Saturday morning. The seller wasn't super knowledgeable on it and had thought it was a '29. From what I know about Model A's it's is my belief that it is a '30 or '31. This cab was built from a sedan at some point in its life. I'm trying to understand exactly what year car it was assembled from. I'm also curious if it was built from a tudor or fordor sedan. I'd like to know so that I might be able to order some pieces I need to help get it back into shape. Here are a couple of photos I have of it. Thanks in advance for any help. Jay

10-23-2011, 10:44 PM	#2
a sedan Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 167	Re: Need help ID'ing Model A sedan to truck pieces Looks to be 30 31 I think 2 door sedan. Looks like a good start. Nice find.

10-23-2011, 10:59 PM	#3
Modelakid31 Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Foxborough, MA Posts: 364	Re: Need help ID'ing Model A sedan to truck pieces Is the dash the early style or the later style. If it has the later style dash it was made after April of 1930. If it's the early style then you know its an early 1930.

10-23-2011, 11:23 PM	#4
Dave Mellor NJ Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 782	Re: Need help ID'ing Model A sedan to truck pieces As you know this was a very common practise in the old days. You hear that people saved money on taxes and insurance by having a truck registered in the depression. I think trucks were simply more useful on the farm. Regardless you see plenty of these conversions. I think this is most likely altered from a tudor. One reason is the door and roof piece above the door are the same on a truck or tudor(the door is 29-1/4", 273/4" on a 4dr). The tudor has 2 vertical seams on the back corners but they can be smoothed out

10-23-2011, 11:29 PM	#5
Dave Mellor NJ Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 782	Re: Need help ID'ing Model A sedan to truck pieces The 4dr has no seams. I can see the inside of the seam thru the window on your top picture

10-23-2011, 11:33 PM	#6
Dave Mellor NJ Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 782	Re: Need help ID'ing Model A sedan to truck pieces Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) The beltline is very slightly different too. the top half-round looks a little wider on the 4dr

10-23-2011, 11:36 PM	#7
CHuDWah Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Kritter Krick, Flaw-duh Posts: 1,158	Re: Need help ID'ing Model A sedan to truck pieces Definitely 30-31 and I'd say Tudor. The back of the cab is not the same as a pickup. A sedan curves under more at the bottom - a pickup is straighter.

10-24-2011, 01:59 AM	#8
Tudortomnz Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Canterbury, New Zealand Posts: 1,242	Re: Need help ID'ing Model A sedan to truck pieces A '30, '31 Tudor, what we term here as 'trucked'. Very common practise 'down under' for old sedans to be made into a pickup on farms or for a tradesman to use before they were finally worn out in the 1960's. They look good now & are very practical as a restored Model A.

10-24-2011, 07:56 AM	#9
John Duden Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 1,854	Re: Need help ID'ing Model A sedan to truck pieces I think this was on ebay some time back, me and my brother were trying to buy it.

10-24-2011, 10:53 AM	#11
31apickup Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Snohomish, WA Posts: 41	Re: Need help ID'ing Model A sedan to truck pieces That was definately started as a 30-31 Tudor Sedan. You could watch for a truck cab back and make it into a proper cab, or look for the back half of a tudor.

10-24-2011, 06:45 PM	#13
flatheadz-forever Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: New Jersey Posts: 156	Re: Need help ID'ing Model A sedan to truck pieces Hey I know you said you like the way it is but I know where there is a 1930-1931 pickup cab back for only 150 bucks pm me if intrested

10-26-2011, 01:33 AM	#16
Hitchhiker Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Seattle Posts: 389	Re: Need help ID'ing Model A sedan to truck pieces Even though I have a extra truck cab back, I'd leave it the way it is too. It's traveled a long way with the back it has and it is a neat part of history. I kinda like it. __________________ Matt in Seattle

10-26-2011, 09:14 AM	#17
farmputzer Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Andover, Minnesota Posts: 34	Re: Need help ID'ing Model A sedan to truck pieces My pickup cab looks just like yours and was a tudor to start with. When I got it several years ago it was on a frame with engine (not running) and pickup box. Originally from the Winona area, now in Andover, and driven most frequently. I love my truck!