07-02-2023, 08:56 AM | #1 |
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Where can the two front bed mounting bolts for a 1936 Pickup be bought? These are for a bed with a steel floor. I think they are 7/16 x 8 carriage bolts and my usual vendors are out of them.
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07-02-2023, 09:07 AM | #2 |
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Re: bed bolts
Art, I made mine. Lengthened by welding in an area that was hidden upon installation.
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07-03-2023, 06:54 AM | #3 |
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Re: bed bolts
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Unfortunately, in the "modern fastener" world, you have a need for what is approaching "Hen's teeth" status. In the current "Industrial" world I work in, 7/16th's, by and large, is what we call a "bastard" diameter. WHY automotive industry landed on using 7/16 & 9/16 diameter fasteners is beyond me (9/16 being even WORSE). Second- the length (beyond 6") moves your need into another stratosphere. The only requirement left to send it into "deep orbit" will be to ask for "Fine Thread". FOURTH- the amount you need..... IF a distributor like me could even find them, my minimum's BOTH overall amount and quantity amounts have almost made it impossible to help people like you on "special orders/needs" and I have almost gotten to a point where IF I don't stock it then it's a "NO" on ordering it UNLESS it is in carton quantities and a company I order from on a daily basis to meet order minimums (most of mine now are $100 to $500). AS Kube astutely stated above, your best course of action is to have them made, as Kube did by welding OR as I have done, with more work and effort, by turning and internal threading two pieces together. I wish I had more encouraging info to pass along....Good luck. Last edited by rockfla; 07-03-2023 at 07:00 AM. |
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Re: bed bolts
Can someone confirm the size? I think they are 7/16 X 8". Thanks, Art
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07-03-2023, 07:50 AM | #5 |
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Re: bed bolts
Art - One source I use a lot for hardware is McMaster-Carr (www.mcmaster.com). I checked and they don't have any 8" long 7/16" carriage bolts but do have 8" 7/16"-14 partially threaded hex head bolts ($13 for 5 bolts plus shipping).
Using Kube's recommendation of welding you could the top unthreaded part of a carriage bolt and add the bottom partially threaded section from these bolts to create exactly what you need with just one weld joint. I'm sure the original bolts were only threaded on the end. I've done this with good results on the bed frame u-bolts for my truck. Just took a bit of welding and grinding but they all came out just fine. Sorry I can't confirm the bolt size for you.
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Re: bed bolts
Art to my knowledge the rear most two bolts are the only carriage bolts. 7/16 coarse carriage bolts have been discontinued for around 15 years and fine thread for around 60 years. If you wished to lengthen some shorter ones I have a abundance but not at the correct 8-1/4” length
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07-03-2023, 07:05 PM | #11 |
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I remember some square-wedge shaped washers used also. On the frame curved sections. Newc
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07-03-2023, 07:47 PM | #12 |
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Try Bolt Depot. They sell any quantity, regardless how small. Might be a mite expensive per unit, but not too bad. I ordered some bolts from them, 4 to be exact, and the price wasn't prohibitive.
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Try Bolt Depot. They sell any quantity, regardless how small. Might be a mite expensive per unit, but not too bad. I ordered some bolts from them, 4 to be exact, and the price wasn't prohibitive.
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I bought some bolts from Brown bolt and nut co. Cannot remember if these were them.
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Mack Products in Missouri shows them in their catalogue.
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07-06-2023, 06:20 PM | #16 |
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Sorry for the delay. My bolts are 7/16-20 x 8.5” long.
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I got my bed bolts from Mack Products out of Moberly, MO, as Krylon32 mentioned.
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07-07-2023, 08:21 AM | #19 |
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Roy Nacewicz used to sell them (2 for $20) but he's gone and so is the supply.
I still think your best bet is to weld together the head end of a carriage bolt and the long unthreaded section with a short threaded end to the carriage bolt to create your own bolt.
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