Anbody on the Ford Barn own one? 1934 four cylinder...

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"Ford produced 26,348 three-window coupes for 1934 (plus seven four-cylinder models). The five-window was far more popular: 47,633 standards (plus 20 four-cylinder) and 26,879 DeLuxes (plus three four-cylinder)"

I found the above quote on the internet...was wondering if anyone on here owns a 4 banger 1934 Factory Ford? Would love to see pics of it! ~Six pack

[Mr 42]

My Roadster is 1933 a Four Cilinder standard right hand drive model.
But it lost the engine before i bought it.
One of 178 if i understanf right.

[fordscript]

My 34 5-w coupe was originally a 4 cylinder, rhd. But fixed it up as a V8.

[DavidG]

I've a Canadian-built '33 four-cylinder LHD 5-window coupe in the final stages of restoration (as it was built). Previously, I had a RHD four-cylinder '34 roadster, but the current owner converted it to a LHD V-8.

[Walt Dupont--Me.]

About 6yr's ago I built a 4cyl from a 34 sedan a friend bought out of Canada. Walt

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Very cool, guess they are very rare now days.....

[Milt/Las Vegas]

Weren't they a model C,and basicly a tractor engine?

[59ab]

A few years ago the Tommy Protsman antique auto museum in Stone Mountain Ga. had a 4 cylinder roadster.

[BLACKNRED]

I have a 33' 5 window Deluxe Coupe with a B Model engine, ex Argentina RHD with Metric speedometer, all the books state total worldwide production for 33' 5 window Deluxe Coupes was 28. If this is right who really knows but definitely uncommon,
The car is sitting, as I collect the parts, car has matching chassis and gearbox numbers, so my intentions are to Hop it Up, with the B model in place, Rilely overhead conversion, Tremec 6 speed and open early diff, car will be Black fenderless riding on red 15" wires.

a couple of pics

[BLACKNRED]

Milt, Ford never recognised the term Model C, all 32 - 34 cars equipped with a 4 cylinder were regarded as a Model B engine, the starting 33 the cranks were counterweight for higher RPM, the 33 & 34 heads have a letter C cast into them, but this only denotes the improved cylinder head, re tractor engine, not really sure but there are Ford cars in the 40's that were equipped with a 4 banger.

other more experienced people probably will chime in to correct me, please do, I am only new to this 4 banger stuff.

cheers

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Like the plans blacknred!!

[Manuel]

The tractor engine came out in the late 30s early 1940's. [Ford/Ferguson 9N] 119ci 30/40HP. [½ a V8]
Used in some PUs and panels as well. Not related to earlier engines or Jeeps.
My book says 120,735, 5 window coupes were made in 1933 and 34 [all versions].

Manuel in Oz

[SSsssteamer]

The 9N tractor engine was first introduced in 1939. It was used up until 1948 when the Ford 8N engine came out in the new 8N tractor. The 9N tractor engine is often found around here in Northwest Washington still working in the 1940 Ford pick ups. The 9N engine made for a really great delivery vehicle engine for around town.

[jimTN]

The 9,2 and 8N 4cyl was used in 40-1/2 commercial vehicles and the first jeep called a GP. The block was different from the tractor engine in one way, it had a fuel pump. The GP engine had a downdraft carb and upright dist. This engine was not manufactured available in automobiles.

[nathanmac]

I've seen a couple of English 'Model C' motors in the past here in New Zealand. They look outwardly identical to an American motor, but have tiny cylinders that probably kept them at a similar pace on the roads to the Austins and Morrises of the day. I don't know much about them, but I remember someone saying they could be machined out, sleeved and the larger pistons put in them. I'm guessing that's an old wives tale though, and someone here will know much more about these motors than me.

The latest American 4 cylinder I've seen in the flesh was in a 32 fordor, not sure how many 33-34 4 cylinders came our way? Would be interesting to know the ratio, but probably impossible to know this far down the track?

[Rem]

As far as I know, the counterbalanced crank commenced in '32, with the B engine (as opposed to the '28-'31 Model A engine). There was an English version with smaller bores (about 2 litre capacity for tax reasons), but I don't believe they can be bored out to the regular 200ci bore as the outer block was cast to suit to suit the smaller size. If you place the two engines side by side, there is a difference in the web between the two centre cylinders, where the main journal bolt comes up through. I don't know the figures for the UK, but we were still building "Model B" Fords two years after the USA, that looked similar to '32s but with things like valanced fenders and '33-'34 styled dashes.

There is also a an English (and German) Model C, which used the little 1172cc four. More information here: http://www.fordyandcmodelregister.co...ification.html

[kelley's restoration]

Originally Posted by Milt/Las Vegas

Weren't they a model C,and basicly a tractor engine?

no
no such thing as a model c
its a "B" from 32-34
c was cast on the head, but was not the engine designation
i have a 34 b engine in my phaeton

also the tractor 4 banger was a 40-41 8n and truck
tk

[DavidG]

The "C" cast on the outer surface of the cylinder was Ford's way of avoiding confusion with those so-called high-compression heads Ford offered in the Model A era. They had a large "B" cast on the outer surface to avoid their being confused the standard Model A head. One would think that the water pump mounting difference between both Model A heads and the '32-'34 head would be enough to avoid confusion, but evidently not.

Some Canadian '32-'34 heads do not have the large "C", nor the Ford script.

The counterbalanced crankshaft was a running change late in '32 model production, not at Job#1.

Both the Rouge Engine Plant and that at Dagenham, England produced Model B engines for service and as industrial engines well past 1934. In the case of the Rouge, production there continued on until the early '40s.