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Old 06-05-2022, 01:40 PM   #1
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Default Oil pan nut

I proceeded to change the oil on my 31 model and the
bolt spun in the circular bushing. No leaks
at this point but suspect I will have to drop
the pan to correct this. I read there was a tool
Mike's affordable sold to aid in holding the
oil pump, would this be useful?
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Old 06-05-2022, 02:25 PM   #2
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Yes it will hold the oil pump in position. https://www.mikes-afordable.com/product/A6701.html All of the vendors sell them.

Might try Snyder's since they are closer to you. https://www.snydersantiqueauto.com/s...l+pump+holder+

DON'T use a regular bolt and many do, the hole is ⅛" pipe thread.
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Old 06-05-2022, 05:17 PM   #3
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#2 post Ruth has it right...the thread is 1/8" pipe thread, and it will keep the oil pump in place instead of dropping it on your head.
A great little gadget to have in your arsenal.
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Old 06-05-2022, 08:10 PM   #4
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I made a couple of them several years ago and they work well.. Very simple to make and cheap. You can get all you need at your local hardware store. Get a pipe plug that fits the hole (I forget the size), drill a hole through the center, thread the hole for a small machine screw. This makes the tool for maybe under 50 cents.
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Thank you for the feedback.
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Old 06-06-2022, 08:28 PM   #6
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The hole is 1/8” npt.
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Try holding the sides of the drain nut with vice grips, pull down and turn gently. Sometimes that works for spinning bolts.
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What is this thread about - Oil pan nuts/oil pan bolts??? Is it the small bolts that hold the sump onto the block or maybe the drain plug?
Assuming the latter, The sump has to come off - I know. It is only soldered in (very poor) and resoldering it won't last. I have found the best solution is to use a sump from a 1928 engine with the cover plate under the oil pump. They never fail. IMO, the later ones were adopted to cut costs. No one expected any of those engines would still be in use 90+ years later.
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I had this happen. Secure an open-end wrench on the drain plug. A helper can hold it. Using a sharp-ended pin punch held at a 45 degree angle or so, tap the ferrule with a hammer in a clockwise motion. You may need to use some moxie behind the hammer. This should break the plug free and you can take it out with your fingers.
As far as fixing this scenario - A small spot of weld will work but the pan should be taken down and welded better if you have the time.
I don't know what the oil pump has to do with your drain plug problem.
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I don't know what the oil pump has to do with your drain plug problem.
If this comment is in response to my post, the oil pump has nothing to do with the drain plug and I suggest you read my post again.
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Synchro, not referring to your post. I'm responding to the original poster #1, as he can't get the drain plug to come out of the oil pan bushing. Your post is correct too, for the dropping of the oil pan for the repair of the initial problem. He's got to get the oil out first.
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Synchro, not referring to your post. I'm responding to the original poster #1, as he can't get the drain plug to come out of the oil pan bushing. Your post is correct too, for the dropping of the oil pan for the repair of the initial problem. He's got to get the oil out first.
Thanks Mas-A-man. Twice, I've had to change the oil while on a long drive by dropping the sump, tipping out the oil, refitting the sump, then refilling it. Needless to say, as soon as I got home, I replaced the sump as I described.
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I proceeded to change the oil on my 31 model and the
bolt spun in the circular bushing. No leaks
at this point but suspect I will have to drop
the pan to correct this
. I read there was a tool
Mike's affordable sold to aid in holding the
oil pump
, would this be useful?
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I don't know what the oil pump has to do with your drain plug problem.
The OP knows the pan has to come off. He was asking about a tool to hold the oil pump in position while he drops the oil pan.

I agree, it would be nice to drain the oil first!!
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I made a couple of them several years ago and they work well.. Very simple to make and cheap. You can get all you need at your local hardware store. Get a pipe plug that fits the hole (I forget the size), drill a hole through the center, thread the hole for a small machine screw. This makes the tool for maybe under 50 cents.
Yep, that's what I did...made my own
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