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07-05-2010, 06:12 PM | #1 |
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J. J. Hart ford dealership
Is anyone familiar with the J. J. HART FORD DEALERSHIP of Brooklyn, New York ?
My 1934 Ford was sold there originally (See photo of decal on the cowl). I have a 1949 post-card from there (See photos). It states that they have 37 years of experience. I can not find them on GOOGLE. I wrote them in 1973, looking for history of my FORD. They wrote back, but had no information. CLICK PHOTOS TO ENLARGE THEM. ARE THEY STILL AROUND ? MIKE Last edited by FL&WVMIKE; 07-05-2010 at 11:09 PM. |
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I don't know. But that is a very neat post card... bonus built truck lover's dream.
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Mike, Have you tried to get a map to the address location on that post card at Google, Yahoo, or Map Quest? Some of these internet websites will allow you to get a satellite picture of that same location. You may be able to get a virtual picture of that same location today. J.M.
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07-09-2010, 07:37 PM | #4 |
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The Nov. 1940 issue of the FORD FIELD magazine had an article of several pages long on J.J. Hart's FORD Engine Rebuilding Department as they were the authorized engine rebuilder for Brooklyn at that time, as well as being a Ford dealer They were located at 1095 Atlantic Avenue.
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Thank you for the information. I did not know that. I'll be on the lookout for that magazine. Thanks, MIKE |
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The building appears to be there, but the walls are blocked up.
If the link works; http://maps.google.com/maps?client=s...en&sa=N&tab=wl |
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well, it didn't work right, it takes you to an overhead view. But you can click the sidewalk view on the upper left of the screen and see more.
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40cpe, Estelle Caruso ....................
Thank you, so much, for the heads up, on the J.J. Hart Ford Dealership. That is where my '34 started it's journey into making people happy. MIKE Last edited by FL&WVMIKE; 02-04-2013 at 11:52 PM. |
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My grandfather owned JJ Hart Ford. My father moved it out to Riverhead in '73 and kept it open until about '82. He still owns that property in Brooklyn.
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I use bing.maps. You can get a "birds eye view" that appears to be taken from a plane at a moderate altitude. In most places, you can rotate the view to see it from all four compass points. Here it is looking north.
Here's a link to the site. Zoom in and go to "birds eye." You can also turn off the labels. http://www.bing.com/maps/#JnE9LjEwOT...4zOTM3NDU0MjI=
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Hey jjhartford, welcome to the forum and thanks for the pictures.
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02-04-2013, 10:45 AM | #13 |
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Thanks...I'll post more pictures soon.
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My grandfather owned JJ Hart Ford. My father moved it out to Riverhead in '73 and kept it open until about '82. He still owns that property in Brooklyn.
Just how neat is this response! Fantastic Mike!
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jjhartford ................
Thank you so much for posting the photos and information on the J.J. HART Ford dealership ! It is just unbelievable, that I would hear from you, on Fordbarn ! It really blows my mind ! Thank you, again, MIKE BURCH Last edited by FL&WVMIKE; 02-05-2013 at 09:17 AM. |
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Here is the location of the J.J. Hart Ford dealership decal, placed there in 1934. A close-up can be seen in Post #1. A nicer view can be seen in Post #18.
MIKE CLICK ON PHOTO TO ENLARGE - Twice Last edited by FL&WVMIKE; 02-08-2013 at 02:20 PM. |
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Don't know if it's the same J.J. Hart, if so, they wound up in Riverhead, N.Y. sometime between '50's & '70's. Not sure of the sequence but the Riverhead dealership had been Lyon Ford, Riverhead Ford, J.J.Hart and somewhere in there Riverhead Ford Linc. Merc. My best friend purchased his 1953 F-100 brand new from them. When the gas prices went to .65 a gal., He yanked out the "whisper quiet V-8" and replaced it with a Mercedes Diesel. Big mistake, it couldn't get out of it's own way.He is deceased but his son still owns it. That '53 is almost perfect except for that Mercedes. His son threatens to put a V-8 back in it someday.
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This photo has a better cropping job than the photo in Post #16.
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I dbl clicked......... now I can't find the sticker
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I was wondering about the arm and hand in the picture. Her outfit doesn't leave much to the imagination. Oh, its great that a decendent of J.J. Hart has joined and posted on the Barn.
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What sticker? Theirs a sticker in this picture?
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Here is a copy of a letter in answer to my request, in 1973, to see if J.J. Hart Ford had records of when they had sold my phaeton, forty years previous.
They, probably thought that I was crazy, but I just had to ask. The President of J.J. Hart Ford, Thomas P, Hart, was nice enough to send me a reply, though. MIKE CLICK ON PHOTO TO ENLARGE - Twice Last edited by FL&WVMIKE; 02-09-2013 at 01:07 PM. |
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That's my Dad's signature..Thomas P. Hart. He's 80 now living out on the east end of Long Island.
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From the Ford top 100 dealer meeting in Dallas 1936...
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Grandfather actually... "J.J. Hart... 203 cars sold between July and August. 986 cars sold between January 1st and August. Appointed Dealer since September 18th, 1916."
He was one of the very first Ford dealers. He started with Ford in 1906 as a mechanic in the NYC headquarters and worked his way up to the head of repairs and testing. |
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Yes, I should have caught that. That was a remarkable achievement, better than four cars a day and in a country just rising from the Depression.
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Do you still have your Grandfather's watch? I see that all 71 attendees received an engraved watch signed by Edsel Ford. Your Grandfater is mentioned in the middle of the front page. Hope this image is readable.
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Here's a better resolution image
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02-12-2013, 02:14 PM | #31 |
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jjhartford ..................
I sure do appreciate you answering my initial inquiry ! I now have some insight on The J. J. Hart Ford Dealership. I have been wondering about it for years. Thank you, so much. You can see more pictures of my J.J. Hart Ford, in my album. MIKE |
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Nope, don't have the watch Don.
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We may have met as children. My dad was a mechanic then a salesman there until the move to Riverhead. He started in the 50s. Worked for your grandfather and your father. I remember the old trailer in the used car lot, and the main showroom. Regards, Bill Nahabedian (Jr.)
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Hi,
dos anyone know of a good mechanic in brooklyn ny? I have a 1930 mod A roadster. Thanks |
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Hi. Was taking a trip down memory lane when I found this post about JJ Hart. My Dad bought his first new car from Jack Hart in about 1935; when he cut the deal with Jack, Mr. Hart trusted my Dad to drive the new car home to get the last $50 he needed to pay for the car. After WWII, my Dad opened a taxi company on Long Island and, because Jack Hart had trusted him for that $50, Dad bought all his cabs exclusively from Jack Hart for many years. When I was getting old enough to drive, my Dad took me to JJ Hart [the dealership was still on Atlantic Ave at that time] to see Tom Hart, Jack's son. My Dad proudly said, "Your father sold me my first car and now Jack's son will sell my son his first car." A few minutes later, I was riding in a brand new Mustang.
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This is one cool thread. Of all the Ford dealerships there must be in the USA, Mike asks a question on the Barn concerning the pedigree of his Ford and the original dealers grandson has been "riding along" on this site all the time
, whats the chances of that eh?...it's about the same as winning the lottery I'd expect ( I'd like to win the lottery). GB
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Awesome story..my Dad is Tom Hart and he turns 85 soon. I'll be out to see him this weekend and share this thread with him!! Here he is last year:
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I'm sure that engine behind her endured more mileage than she did. I'm not wondering what she looks like now.
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This thread is pretty neat. It's unfortunate the original poster is no longer with us. Sure would be awesome to know the original dealer ship where all our old Fords were sold!
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Yes, I agree. I miss Mike and reading his posts. Glad I got to meet him at one of the Cigar City FH gatherings in FL. I wanted to stop at his place on another trip to FL but unfortunately that never happened. Lesson learned,...never procrastinate, there are no promises for what tomorrow will bring.
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WOW! what an interesting story. Always nice to know where your old Ford was purchased from when new. I hope all this history stays with Mikes phaeton if it is sold on. Thanks to all for posting. Regards, Kevin.
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Mike passed away!!?? So sorry ..RIP
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