'36 3 Window Coupe

[36tudordeluxe]

It's a very nice "example" of a '36 3 window but that's about it; 66K, I don't see it. The car is nowhere near correct and doesn't call out "hot rod" to me either. Anybody have an idea what the knob (starter button?) under the oil/fuel gauge is?

[flatheadfan]

I also wondered about that. It could be a heater switch but more likely I think it is a push-pull light switch. The reason I say that is there appears to be a headlight relay on the inner fender. If this is the case, does the car have a working horn?

Tom

[my mostly 36 coupe]

Gorgeous 36 3 window coupe! Looks like there's an electric cooling fan stuffed in there also. Great for a hot day parade.

[V12Bill]

Brakes are Lincoln Zephyr

[mrtexas]

Originally Posted by weemark

He doesn't say it's all completely original, he is advertising it as a hotrod. There nothing dishonest about anything he has done. As for claiming they are shell bidding - you have no idea if that's going on and shouldn't insinuate that it is if you don't know for sure.

There is no way to tell if any bidding is shill or not. Nothing wrong IMHO about shill bidding below the reserve. Dishonest? Nah but buyer beware.

Did you know that the auctioneers can announce bids that haven't been made up to the reserve price? They do this to try to move things along when the bidding slows down. It is in the auction contract the seller signs I've been told.

[blucar]

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I also noted the aftermarket gauges under the dash, the battery in the trunk, and noted possible problems with the seat structure.
I noted also what appears to be phillips head screws holding the trunk supports to the floor pan. a few other nuances suggest to me that the floor pan has been replaced, which would be very common on a car of this vintage.
I could babble on about the many problems I have noted with the '36, however, it would most likely be like preaching to the choir. Most people jump to conclusions, seeing only what they want to see.

[rotorwrench]

If you type "shill bidding" into Google, Flea-Pay's policy comes right up and explains how it is dealt with by them. I've never worried about it since most bidding just boils down to what a person wants to bid. Someone may in fact really want that car that bad. You see drama like that when watching televised auto auctions all the time. I don't go for that stuff but a lot of folks do.

[RalphM]

Originally Posted by blucar

Reviewing the pic' attached to the eBay listing I noted several items on the car that seem a little suspect to me.
The grille shell should be painted on the sides, not chrome. The front springs have reverse spring eyes and the rear shocks are the Delco type. I also noted that the brake backing plates are not '36 mechanical and/or 39-48 hydraulics. The wheels are not Ford, they do have '47-48 style of Ford hub caps...
I know my observations and comments might appear to be nit picking, however, the right-up for the eBay add in my opinion is rather vague and miss leading.

Your right about the grille, he should just trade me for a painted one to make it right.

[VeryTangled]

Hi Everyone. Blucar was on V-8 Club judging teams in many meets, so his eye is coming from there.

Definitely grill issues. Reproduction is just on the side of 'Too Nice'.

TomT; He won't care too much because this car has some additional features not visible in the info we're provided to 'increase' performance over stock. And I'm good with his eye, fer shure!

Interesting, but not for 80G's!

[itslow]

The seller of this car is Scott Gillen. He's had some nice cars built by Brizio, et al, but also ruined some previously nice ones, too. He tends to look at things through rose colored glasses and went through a bunch of drama on the HAMB when he was called out on it. He likes hot rodded old Fords, but doesn't come across as the most knowledgeable about them (also, hence the HAMB drama).

[expavr]

Originally Posted by itslow

The seller of this car is Scott Gillen. He's had some nice cars built by Brizio, et al, but also ruined some previously nice ones, too. He tends to look at things through rose colored glasses and went through a bunch of drama on the HAMB when he was called out on it. He likes hot rodded old Fords, but doesn't come across as the most knowledgeable about them (also, hence the HAMB drama).

This explanation of the $66K bid makes sense to me. Someone has bought into the Brizio cachet and is willing to pony up the $$$$$$ to say they own a Brizio restored/built car. I was unable to bring up all the photos. Has the engine and drivetrain been modified?

[deuce lover]

Originally Posted by expavr

This explanation of the $66K bid makes sense to me. Someone has bought into the Brizio cachet and is willing to pony up the $$$$$$ to say they own a Brizio restored/built car. I was unable to bring up all the photos. Has the engine and drivetrain been modified?

Appears to have the correct 21 stud.On the intake looks like where the gen mounts has had reinforcing done.Might have a Powermaster generator hence the electric fan.Rear is '36.Springs have reversed eyes.If it is a Brizio built car the current bid is a fraction of what it probably cost to build.

[petehoovie]

Originally Posted by deuce lover

If it is a Brizio built car the current bid is a fraction of what it probably cost to build.

Pretty hard to get into a Brizio built car for under $100K....

[aussiesteve]

The seller contacted me once about buying one of my cars.
He said that I should google his name and see who he is.
What an egotistical wanker.

[VeryTangled]

Originally Posted by petehoovie

'36 was the last year for the three window coupe by Ford....

Hi Everyone. peethoovie, I guess they didn't sell... But, dang, that is a sexy body style! I can never walk past a 35 or 36 3W Coupe.

I'm still wounded by a very nice Rouge car at Tahoe that'd I'd steal in a heartbeat if it weren't for the pain I'd cause the owner. That, and I don't know where it is!

Oh, Yeah. I was gonna steal Brendan's Pickup at that meet too, so I need a better hauler!

On the car of the discussion here... Loser is out at $67,900, 18 bids.

[JSeery]

Originally Posted by petehoovie

Pretty hard to get into a Brizio built car for under $100K....

I saw no where in the write up anything about it being a "Brizio" built car. It was stated that Brizo put the brakes on it and nothing else that I could see in the article. If he had built it I'm sure it would have been clearly stated as such.

"Runs and drives great starts right up new wheels and tires and brakes done by Roy Brizio Street rods."

[transbytip]

Things wrong in engine comp.Fuel pump no drain petcock, oil filler wrong,headers, no plug wire tubes, all easy to correct.Cliff.

[flatheadfan]

This is getting weirder and weirder. In case you missed it the listing has ended and relisted. It no longer is "perfect" it is now described as "Complete and stock except the new brakes, untouched in any way..."

http://www.ebay.com/itm/191963832040...84.m1436.l2661

Tom

[cretin]

Since I know many of you are wondering, he wants $70k for it.

[Alaska Jim]

very tangled, could you please tell me what the knob on the upper left side of the dash is for? I have seen several with that spot just an open hole. Thanks---Jim