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02-18-2018, 02:43 PM | #21 | |
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Re: rleated to NOS vs NORS thread: "restored"
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Restore: to repair or renovate (a building, work of art, vehicle, etc.) so as to return it to its original condition.
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02-18-2018, 03:36 PM | #22 |
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Re: rleated to NOS vs NORS thread: "restored"
The Rotisserie Refreshed on an auto twirler is interesting. I've seen sellers call it Rotisserie Restored that's possible for everything except what was between the chassis & floors.
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02-19-2018, 11:02 AM | #23 | |
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Re: rleated to NOS vs NORS thread: "restored"
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Many are over-restored. Many are under-restored.
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02-19-2018, 11:04 AM | #24 |
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Re: rleated to NOS vs NORS thread: "restored"
What if the car is down-under? "Off-Frame" is a bit more awkward to say.
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Re: rleated to NOS vs NORS thread: "restored"
I am in awe of those who "restore" something like a 1910 Rolls when they start with maybe a small piece of the grille shell and fabricate everything else.
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02-19-2018, 11:34 AM | #26 |
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The guy that sold me the 34 roadster said he restored the chassis wow that was funny as it was just painted over the dirt and grease. Shackles & brake shoes were worn out but freshly painted. They are original only once. |
02-19-2018, 12:10 PM | #27 |
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Re: rleated to NOS vs NORS thread: "restored"
But, "body-off" isn't (more awkward to say) and from that standpoint, slightly less awkward to say.
I have yet to see a restoration commence with turning the car upside down and removing the frame from the body in that position, hence my original question. |
02-19-2018, 12:38 PM | #28 |
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Re: rleated to NOS vs NORS thread: "restored"
Hucksters and sales people in general use every advantageous term in the book to sell stuff whether it is correct terminology or not. They sometimes make stuff up as they go too. A person has to laugh about it and be sceptical of anything that can't be easily verified. If folks were honest and followed a complete path to originality, the only description needed would be "restored to original condition". Unfortunately, we all know that you can't change a half wit into a whole wit.
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02-19-2018, 01:18 PM | #29 |
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Re: rleated to NOS vs NORS thread: "restored"
"Frame Off" was originally "Off-Frame" and makes more sense.
(By the way, I'm of the same mindset as Petehoovie. Preservation tops restoration.)
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Re: rleated to NOS vs NORS thread: "restored"
I have a question for David or Mike. I once read that NORS, New Old Replacement Stock, did not mean the stock was good. The article went on to say that, if a part didn't fit correctly on the assembly line or there was some other reason for it to be rejected, it was put into NORS status. Such as a dented fender or untapped hole. It went on to say that Ford wanted nothing thrown away or scrapped, so NORS it was. Any truth to the story?
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02-19-2018, 05:09 PM | #31 |
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Re: rleated to NOS vs NORS thread: "restored"
Hoop,
Yes, "off-frame" makes perfectly perfectly good sense. woodiewagon46, There's some truth to that in the case of NOS parts, but I've not encountered it with NORS parts from well known period suppliers such as Thompson Products, Toledo Valve, etc. In the case of "genuine" Ford NOS parts, miss-builds are sometimes encountered, but then they are also sometimes encountered in the parts used to assemble the car such as missing holes in stampings or hood panels that are longer or shorter than they should be. Even if a NOS part requires some rework, that extra effort is usually worth when it comes to fit, finish, and function compared to the alternatives. |
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Re: rleated to NOS vs NORS thread: "restored"
I call my project a "pieced together restoration" having started with an original frame and collecting parts over a period of 50+ years. Is it 100% correct? It is close, due to the expertise of David Rehor and others who willingly share their knowledge. The help of others is appreciated and vital when you don''t know the answers.
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Sounds like a net project; have a photo or two to share? David |
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Re: rleated to NOS vs NORS thread: "restored"
Here are the before and after pictures of my, purchased in 1957 pickup. It now has lots of mods, but it is still flat and still reliable. The renewed picture is the day it came out of the garage in 2009.
What do I call the repairs I made? Refreshed?
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02-23-2018, 01:54 PM | #40 |
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Re: rleated to NOS vs NORS thread: "restored"
I've actually written sellers on eBay that have advertised "rare this, rare that" and then within the description, admit they have no clue what it is for. I ask them how they know it is rare if they have no clue what it is or what it is for.
Because they only have one?
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