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mrcorvair · 10-07-2013, 09:28 AM

What's available? What seems to work the best?
Years ago I used a Frantz oil filter which used a roll of toilet paper.

34PKUP · 10-07-2013, 09:37 AM

Believe that toilet paper filters were for by-pass filters only.

19Fordy · 10-07-2013, 10:51 AM

A search of 'Full flow oil filters" reveals this:
http://fordbarn.com/forum/search.php?searchid=3215119

I am sure you will find your answer there. Do a search on www.jalopyjournal.com also
for more info.

51 MERC-CT · 10-07-2013, 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 19Fordy

A search of 'Full flow oil filters" reveals this:
http://fordbarn.com/forum/search.php?searchid=3215119

I am sure you will find your answer there. Do a search on www.jalopyjournal.com also
for more info.

This might work better--
https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/search...archid=3215441

Ole Don · 10-07-2013, 01:01 PM

I have done two modern oil filters on a 8BA block. At overhaul time they are easy to do. I used spin on FL400A filters and 15W40 oil. I only drove mine for two years before selling it. It was time well spent in my opinion. Is it necessary? Maybe not, but far better than the bypass type.

rotorwrench · 10-07-2013, 05:48 PM

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Mr. Ford was happy with the sludge traps in the crankshaft and frequent oil changes. Now days no one wants to change oil any more. Chevrolet even kept the partial filtering system well up into the 70s and even later on some engines.

Wix still makes the best pleated paper for their automotive filters. I've cut some other brands apart that I could tear the paper easily by hand. The only ones better are aircraft filters and we still change the oil every 50-hours of flight time with those. A word of warning on toilet paper filters, all toilet paper is not the same. Some is thin enough to filter without breaking down and many others are not. I don't even think that oil could make it through some types.

Ross6860 · 10-07-2013, 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 51 MERC-CT

This might work better--
https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/search...archid=3215441

Neither link works for me. Any ideas?

Filtering the oil certainly can't hurt anything, so if it's not that hard to do while the engine is out, why not?

I know it ain't the way they did it way back when, but I don't shovel coal into my furnace any more, either.

TStiles · 10-07-2013, 07:08 PM

Put one of these in my latest 8BA build. Works well.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Full-Flow-Oi...-/300735217475

38 Ford Guy · 10-07-2013, 07:15 PM

Here is the one I would recommend. I used the guy on E-Bay and had problems. Could not get a return call.
Goller (website below) did not sell me the kit but still helped me out. Can't say enough good about him. He also uses an American Made Melling Oil Pump. the e-bay guy was a name pump I never heard of plus was high volume which was too much for a flathead. Mine with the melling stock volume pump runs 58psi at 2,000 rpm and 24psi at idle. Give Goller's a call he will be more than helpful.

www.gollershotrods.com/

BillM · 10-07-2013, 09:11 PM

Here's another one to consider: http://www.flatheadspeedandmachine.com/products.html
I'd contact him before ordering to make sure he is still doing these.

JM 35 Sedan · 10-07-2013, 10:31 PM

The FFOF kit that TStiles posted an eBay link appears to be the same kit that Motor City Flathead (Mark Kirby) sold when they were in business. I have the MCF kit on my avatar '35 fordor.
If I were installing a FFOF system today, I would prefer to use the kit from Flathead Speed & Machine that BillM posted a link for. I like that preformed 1/2" diameter SS tube from pump to bulkhead fitting much better than the length of flex tubing that's supplied on the eBay kit. That flex hose can be twisted and kinked during installation if you are not very very careful. Don't ask me how I know this can happen. I had a nightmare of a problem with zero oil pressure on a newly rebuilt engine that required me to pull the engine and replace that piece of flex hose.
Also, the price of that eBay kit seems out of line (over priced) to the tune of about $100.00.

flatmotor40 · 10-08-2013, 04:52 AM

I put a MCF on mine when he was still in business and it works fine.

nbrskn · 10-08-2013, 08:54 AM

I put a MCF on mine and it seems to take a while for the pressure to come up when first started.

JM 35 Sedan · 10-08-2013, 09:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nbrskn

I put a MCF on mine and it seems to take a while for the pressure to come up when first started.

Where did you locate your filter? What length and ID hose are you using?

I made a bracket to mount the filter down low using two oil pan bolts going into the pan rail. The hose length is very short. Oil pressure seems to come up instantly.

10-07-2013, 09:28 AM	#1
mrcorvair Senior Member Join Date: May 2013 Location: McDowell, Va Posts: 141	Full flow oil filter What's available? What seems to work the best? Years ago I used a Frantz oil filter which used a roll of toilet paper.

10-07-2013, 09:37 AM	#2
34PKUP Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 794	Re: Full flow oil filter Believe that toilet paper filters were for by-pass filters only.

10-07-2013, 10:51 AM	#3
19Fordy Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Coral Springs FL Posts: 10,944	Re: Full flow oil filter A search of 'Full flow oil filters" reveals this: http://fordbarn.com/forum/search.php?searchid=3215119 I am sure you will find your answer there. Do a search on www.jalopyjournal.com also for more info.

10-07-2013, 01:01 PM	#5
Ole Don Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: St. Michael, Minnesota Posts: 1,713	Re: Full flow oil filter I have done two modern oil filters on a 8BA block. At overhaul time they are easy to do. I used spin on FL400A filters and 15W40 oil. I only drove mine for two years before selling it. It was time well spent in my opinion. Is it necessary? Maybe not, but far better than the bypass type.

10-07-2013, 05:48 PM	#6
rotorwrench Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: San Antonio, Texas Posts: 16,436	Re: Full flow oil filter Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) Mr. Ford was happy with the sludge traps in the crankshaft and frequent oil changes. Now days no one wants to change oil any more. Chevrolet even kept the partial filtering system well up into the 70s and even later on some engines. Wix still makes the best pleated paper for their automotive filters. I've cut some other brands apart that I could tear the paper easily by hand. The only ones better are aircraft filters and we still change the oil every 50-hours of flight time with those. A word of warning on toilet paper filters, all toilet paper is not the same. Some is thin enough to filter without breaking down and many others are not. I don't even think that oil could make it through some types. Last edited by rotorwrench; 10-07-2013 at 06:26 PM.

10-07-2013, 07:08 PM	#8
TStiles Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Kitsap Peninsula, Western WA Posts: 276	Re: Full flow oil filter Put one of these in my latest 8BA build. Works well. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Full-Flow-Oi...-/300735217475

10-07-2013, 07:15 PM	#9
38 Ford Guy Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Central MN Posts: 108	Re: Full flow oil filter Here is the one I would recommend. I used the guy on E-Bay and had problems. Could not get a return call. Goller (website below) did not sell me the kit but still helped me out. Can't say enough good about him. He also uses an American Made Melling Oil Pump. the e-bay guy was a name pump I never heard of plus was high volume which was too much for a flathead. Mine with the melling stock volume pump runs 58psi at 2,000 rpm and 24psi at idle. Give Goller's a call he will be more than helpful. www.gollershotrods.com/ __________________ "If you always do what you have always done then you will always get what you always got." Henry Ford

10-07-2013, 09:11 PM	#10
BillM Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Everett, WA Posts: 504	Re: Full flow oil filter Here's another one to consider: http://www.flatheadspeedandmachine.com/products.html I'd contact him before ordering to make sure he is still doing these. __________________ My web page: http://myplace.frontier.com/~wgmumaw/

10-07-2013, 10:31 PM	#11
JM 35 Sedan Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Near Rising Sun, Maryland Posts: 10,858	Re: Full flow oil filter The FFOF kit that TStiles posted an eBay link appears to be the same kit that Motor City Flathead (Mark Kirby) sold when they were in business. I have the MCF kit on my avatar '35 fordor. If I were installing a FFOF system today, I would prefer to use the kit from Flathead Speed & Machine that BillM posted a link for. I like that preformed 1/2" diameter SS tube from pump to bulkhead fitting much better than the length of flex tubing that's supplied on the eBay kit. That flex hose can be twisted and kinked during installation if you are not very very careful. Don't ask me how I know this can happen. I had a nightmare of a problem with zero oil pressure on a newly rebuilt engine that required me to pull the engine and replace that piece of flex hose. Also, the price of that eBay kit seems out of line (over priced) to the tune of about $100.00. __________________ *John* *"Never give up on what you really want to do. The person with big dreams is more powerful than one with all the facts". Albert Einstein* Last edited by JM 35 Sedan; 07-02-2014 at 08:58 PM.

10-08-2013, 04:52 AM	#12
flatmotor40 Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Georgia Posts: 611	Re: Full flow oil filter I put a MCF on mine when he was still in business and it works fine.

10-08-2013, 08:54 AM	#13
nbrskn Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 103	Re: Full flow oil filter I put a MCF on mine and it seems to take a while for the pressure to come up when first started.