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Old 04-02-2018, 08:58 AM   #1
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I purchased my pickup with the running gear mostly rebuilt. because I have had cooling difficulty I have looked at many aspects of the system. the radiator doesn't have cooling tubes but one channel running from front of radiator to rear. it has 6 horizontal fins per one inch vertical.


what is odd is the air enters the front then turns 30 degrees to the left as viewed from the drivers seat.


I would welcome comments from those who may be familiar with this type.


thankyou, gary
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Old 04-02-2018, 09:30 AM   #2
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Got any pictures?
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Is it a honeycomb radiator? See link https://www.thebrassworks.net/restor...radiators.html

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Old 04-02-2018, 04:24 PM   #4
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sounds like a honeycomb replacement core...not factory supplied.
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I think Chevy used this design.
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hi Katy. thanks for your reply. a picture could not show these internal tube substitute. I hadn't noticed it until I took a look to count the tubes. it's outer appearance looks like a normal radiator. cheers, gary
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Is it a honeycomb radiator? See link https://www.thebrassworks.net/restor...radiators.html

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no, it's not honeycomb. both front and rear look like any modern radiator.
thanks for your comments. cheers, gary
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Old 04-02-2018, 08:13 PM   #8
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This was a replacement core. Some small radiator mfg probably designed his own fin type. I have worked on and repaired many of variations of this fin type. If you look around top tank, a lot of mfg. would put their name or brand on it.
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thankyou all for your comments.
a photo shows it to be just like any normal modern radiator.
the comment on Chevy may be quite pertinent and so too the comments on a small manufacturer having made this. think I will buy new 3 core pressurized unit.
thankyou again, gary
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Gary,
why are you considering a pressurized radiator? If you are running an original 4 cyl. Model A engine, there is no need to pressurize.
A Chev. 350 might warrant what you are proposing, otherwise, no need.
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why are you considering a pressurized radiator? If you are running an original 4 cyl. Model A engine, there is no need to pressurize.
A Chev. 350 might warrant what you are proposing, otherwise, no need.
I don't understand how you can say that without knowing the driving conditions, terrain, speed etc etc. I have what is supposed to be the best radiator in my car and it sometimes over heats. It is a pressurised Brassworks radiator. I'm disappointed with it and that is why. I need more cooling and before some armchair expert decides it is blocked or that there is rust in the block or some other thing, all of those things have been taken care of.
Henry was a tight ass. He didn't spend any more on a car than he had to, including the radiator. Cooling on a Model A is marginal. Any extra that can be gained is a bonus and very much needed in the right circumstances.
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why are you considering a pressurized radiator? If you are running an original 4 cyl. Model A engine, there is no need to pressurize.
A Chev. 350 might warrant what you are proposing, otherwise, no need.


why? This overheating has gone on for too long. I have installed a radiator shroud and 5 blade plastic fan. Had radiator cleaned and rodded. I've had enough of it. I can't maintain 40mph on a moderate temp day. I'm open to suggestions thus this thread in this forum. Help will be received with gratitude.
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Timing, timing, timing. Initial and how you use the spark lever when driving. JMO
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Henry was a tight ass. He didn't spend any more on a car than he had to, including the radiator. Cooling on a Model A is marginal. Any extra that can be gained is a bonus and very much needed in the right circumstances.[/QUOTE]

So youíre saying ford made a car and sold 5,000,000 configurations all over the world, with an under designed cooling system? Seems like a bad Business plan.
Arenít you the one who tows a trailer on your trips? That would certainly add heat and possibly overheat a stock system. Do you have engineering data to support your underdesigned theory? Iím seriously curious.
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If you read the tests that have been done on the 6 blade fan, it buys you nothing. The two blade as supplied by the factory gives the best performance. Jack
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Timing, timing, timing. Initial and how you use the spark lever when driving. JMO
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hello Paul. even with spark retarded in pings or knocks . I reckon I got the timing correct although I haven't checked the dimple against the physical position of number one. consensus says I have a failed head gasket. will replace that soon. thanks, gary
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Gary, have you tried replacing the radiator w/one from one of your other cars, to see if it makes a difference?
Possible rust/scale build-up in the engine block?
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hi Katy. no I never gave that a thought. just think I might get a new one even a pressurised one. I've sorta grown tired of the whole thing. cheers, gary
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hi Katy. no I never gave that a thought. just think I might get a new one even a pressurised one. I've sorta grown tired of the whole thing. cheers, gary


I have however just received in the mail today, an electronic thermometer. Haven't put it on the A yet but checked out the beer in my fridge and that's 4 degrees Celsius.
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hi Jack. your comment is interesting. I would be pleased to hear your comments as to why the 2 blader is more efficient. I am uncertain on the 5 blader I purchased.
the diameter of the fan is 14 inches and each blade is only 4 inches. that is 6 inches of hub. the large hub doesn't have the speed of the blades and thus if blades would not pull the air. it does however tend to obstruct the airflow.
I would welcome comments from others. with thanks, gary
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So youíre saying ford made a car and sold 5,000,000 configurations all over the world, with an under designed cooling system? Seems like a bad Business plan.
Arenít you the one who tows a trailer on your trips? That would certainly add heat and possibly overheat a stock system. Do you have engineering data to support your underdesigned theory? Iím seriously curious.
Chuck,

I believe you have to consider the era that Ford designed, built and sold the Model A., e.g., bad roads, very little traffic, low speeds, short trips, etc.

You also have to consider the environment, for example, in inland Southern California, much like Australia, we have sustained temperatures of over 100 to 110 degrees during summer.

My main problem is climbing the long hills to get to my house with a stock engine and transmission (no OD). I could do it easily at 20 - 25 mph but the traffic conditions require me to push it up to 50 mph which puts a strain on the engine and cooling system.

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