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Jim Boehmke · 05-21-2013, 09:32 AM

This oil pan is vintage, 1936. What is the "cup" for that is welded to the bottom of the pan?
thanks,
Jim Boehmke

Bruce Lancaster · 05-21-2013, 09:54 AM

That cup is a sort of shallow baffle that goes around the tip of a pickup pipe from a first-generation flathead oil pump. Pretty sure pan is earlier than '36!

DavidG · 05-21-2013, 09:56 AM

Actually, the pan is vintage 1933-34. The cup is where the pickup tube for the oil pump fits and helps ensure that the pump does not suck air when the oil level is low and the vehicle is operated on steep hills.

Jim Boehmke · 05-21-2013, 10:03 AM

Ok, thanks guys for the info. I sort of miss-stated. The engine I have is vingage '36 and this is the pan I removed from it.
Earlier pan seems corrert. That's why there are the indents on the sides of the oil pan to support the dipper tray for the rods.

Bruce Lancaster · 05-21-2013, 10:39 AM

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Not a dipper tray. Rods were all pressurized. If engine is 1936, it will have an open hole at right front pan surface where the vent is...a '35-up pan has an extra piece to cover and complete the vent, absent on the earlier pan. If pan fits it and there isn't a gap there, engine is pre-35.

05-21-2013, 09:54 AM	#2
Bruce Lancaster Member Emeritus Join Date: May 2010 Location: Madison, NJ Posts: 5,230	Re: Mystery "cup" in bottom of oil pan???? That cup is a sort of shallow baffle that goes around the tip of a pickup pipe from a first-generation flathead oil pump. Pretty sure pan is earlier than '36!

05-21-2013, 09:56 AM	#3
DavidG Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: southeastern Michigan Posts: 10,101	Re: Mystery "cup" in bottom of oil pan???? Actually, the pan is vintage 1933-34. The cup is where the pickup tube for the oil pump fits and helps ensure that the pump does not suck air when the oil level is low and the vehicle is operated on steep hills.

05-21-2013, 10:03 AM	#4
Jim Boehmke Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 344	Re: Mystery "cup" in bottom of oil pan???? Ok, thanks guys for the info. I sort of miss-stated. The engine I have is vingage '36 and this is the pan I removed from it. Earlier pan seems corrert. That's why there are the indents on the sides of the oil pan to support the dipper tray for the rods.

05-21-2013, 10:39 AM	#5
Bruce Lancaster Member Emeritus Join Date: May 2010 Location: Madison, NJ Posts: 5,230	Re: Mystery "cup" in bottom of oil pan???? Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) Not a dipper tray. Rods were all pressurized. If engine is 1936, it will have an open hole at right front pan surface where the vent is...a '35-up pan has an extra piece to cover and complete the vent, absent on the earlier pan. If pan fits it and there isn't a gap there, engine is pre-35.