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Old 11-13-2015, 12:23 PM   #1
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Default V8 60 oil pan removal

Purchased a 1933 race boat with V8 60 power. (HEBE.) Have disassembled most of the engine, but don't understand how the oil pan is attached. The normal fasteners are used attaching it to the bottom of the block but it seems to be attached to the rear of the block with no fasteners visible.
It was direct drive as a race boat. We are trying to install a bell housing and clutch so we will at least have a "neural" actuated by a hand lever. Also since it was always moving when the engine was running, no water pump was used. Scoops facing forward on the bottom of the hull provided water for cooling. Now we need a water pump or two. Electric, or crank driven. No belt drive, so no generator. Thinking of two batteries. Any ideas?
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Old 11-13-2015, 02:02 PM   #2
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The last time I took a V8/60 apart was in 1960, so my memory is a little cloudy. I don't think there was anything tricky to getting the pan off, but I'm not sure. Maybe the special marine bell housing set-up has something weird going on. I see now that I was of no help; sorrry!
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Old 11-13-2015, 02:09 PM   #3
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Thanks Tubman.
I think is is a conventional block.
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Old 11-13-2015, 02:26 PM   #4
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I think I have a pan gasket set for a V8-60 kicking around my shop from back then. However, I am in Florida for 6 months. If this is a long term project I can send it to you next spring if you want it.
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Old 11-13-2015, 02:33 PM   #5
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That sounds great. I expect my timeline to be less than that, but we all know how that goes. I am searching the web for more V8 60 info. I will be at All Ford in San Jose CA tomorrow. I'm sure I will learn a lot there. Any V8 60 info is helpful. Thanks
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Old 11-13-2015, 03:45 PM   #6
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Old 11-13-2015, 04:28 PM   #7
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On your original question...I'm at work with little ref material around me, but I do have an orange Bible hidden under the desk...
Pan picture shows only 2 bolt holes through the rear clutch portion of the pan: Onelooks to be over the starter drive area, biased a bit to inboard, other is at rearmost part almost against the transmission flange. I hope that helps...the 60 book is at home and probably well hidden there!
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Old 11-13-2015, 04:41 PM   #8
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Speedway sells a direct drive water pump.
http://www.speedwaymotors.com/V8-60-...Pump,3268.html
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Old 11-13-2015, 06:52 PM   #9
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I believe the 60 pan is held on about the same way as it's big brother. The rear pan bolts near the starter are hard to see. Look closely with a good light and you will likely see them. They may be covered in crud. The 60 was very popular in many classes of early race boats including hyrdroplanes. Clay Smith ground some great cams for those 60 boat motors.
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Old 11-13-2015, 06:55 PM   #10
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Looking at the picture in the green bible, there is a bolt going down from the bellhousing in behind the starter flange into the pan, one on the other side too. Could be you missed them because they go down instead of up.
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Old 11-13-2015, 07:56 PM   #11
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Wow, I knew I could count on this forum. I have to learn how to post pix. This 14ft "hydroplane" which is basically just a stepped hull, was clocked at 71 knots on the St. Charles River. Clicking on V8 60 Marine Use, I found a picture showing this boat, HEBE 0-60 and says it was clocked at 87MPH. Thanks.
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Old 11-13-2015, 08:09 PM   #12
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Anybody have experience with the Speedway crank driven water pump for the V8/60?
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Old 11-16-2015, 02:04 PM   #13
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Thanks, got the pan off. My flywheel was the smaller one, 37 to 39? Found a 1940 flywheel to use with the bigger pressure plate, disc and shaft. Seems to be a good fit. Using a special case made in San Diego, for midgets with just an in and out instead of a transmission. We will have direct drive, (no in and out) with the new clutch, actuated by a hand lever, giving us a "neutral" for starting and close maneuvering. Any thoughts?
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