Nickel copper brake.fuel lines.

[russcc]

Any experiences or opinions on the nickel/copper alloy brake & fuel lines. Seems like a good alloy combination to strengthen the copper and still be malleable so it can be bent easily. They sure look good also. Might use them on the duals from the fuel block to the '97s on roadster.

[CSArno]

I like this stuff alot. I've done a '35 PU and a '49 F1 Brakes and fuel lines ('35 had a hydraulic conversion)
Copper nickel is super easy to work with. I bent everything on those trucks by hand. I think it looks great also.

[skidmarks]

As long as you buy a quality brand of it like Fedhill. I use it and its very easy to work with. I tried some from Napa and it has a thinner wall thickness and you cant bend it in tight radius unlike the Fedhill stuff.

[Kurt in NJ]

I recently did a Mercedes G-wagon, over 100feet of pipe, works easy flairs good-----the owner bought me the mastercool hydraulic flairng tool
http://www.mastercool.com/product/71475/

makes the job easy

[JSeery]

Love the flairing tool, one of my favorite tools!

[rick r]

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Wouldn't use anything else. My son owns a Car Quest, it is the only type of brake lines they stock. It is pretty much the industry standard in our area.

[38coop]

Who do you buy the Fedhill tubing from?

[BW]

Is this the tubing that comes in a roll and is hard to make look straight ! Not for me.

[51 MERC-CT]

Originally Posted by 38coop

Who do you buy the Fedhill tubing from?

Here---
http://store.fedhillusa.com/
http://store.fedhillusa.com/cnf3.aspx

Federal Hill Trading Company
195 Federal Hill Road
Oxford, MA 01540 USA
Phone Number: 508-987-2660

[russcc]

Also, any issues as fuel line with the alcohol crap gas the bureaucrats and their constituents are shoving down our throats. Thank you.

[Kurt in NJ]

Originally Posted by BW

Is this the tubing that comes in a roll and is hard to make look straight ! Not for me.

unroll it on a table using the table as a guide to straighten, not freehand

in the #4 post that pipe was in a roll, made to fit on the bench by copying the old lines

[john in illinois]

I used it for brake lines. I am using it to run fuel line. I figured since Stromberg carburetors have brass fittings it is probably fine.It is so easy to work with.

John

[RandyZ]

It is sold under the name nicopp. short for nickle copper. Best deal I found is on Amazon for rolls of it. AGS is the main company that makes the lines and fittings.
I love using it. I'll never go back to steel lines.

[russcc]

An update on Fedhill. They are in Mass where I am so I had conversation with them today, and also called AGS in MI.
The Fedhill Nicopp product was developed in Great Britain about 20 years ago. The tubing that Fedhill sells from their Oxford MA location is Made in England, and it meets ASTM and SAE standards. Fedhill does not sell made up lines, that use the tubing made in GB, only rolls through their website.
The AGS product, (American Grease Stick) is in Muskegon MI. They buy their tubing in bulk from China, and are a converter, making up lengths of flared tubing with fittings and selling rolls. The rolls are sold by NAPA, and the made up lines with fittings by Autozone and likely others. Some of this tubing is also made in India. The quality of the nickel/copper alloy and the process in China and India is likely suspect, and may or may not meet ASTM or SAE standards. Fedhill, or Federal Trading Company is a distributor for AGS products.
For fuel and brake lines, I will be buying the tubing from Fedhill that is made in GB, as it also meets British standards. Thanks to 51 Merc CT for posting the company information.

[skidmarks]

I use the work bench method for unrolling the coil and works fine. you can also buy a un-coiler tool. I think eastwood sold them . its three wheel with 2 fixed and one that is adjustable. run the coiled tubing through it and by adjusting pressure on the one wheel it straightens it out. same method used with coils of steel sheets but on a smaller scale

[40cpe]

Is the nickel/copper double flaired like steel tubing?

[Kurt in NJ]

Yes, double flair for double flair fittings---the same flair is used as with steel lines

Renaults had these pipes in the 70s ----they never went bad

[ford38v8]

Russ, that's some good information there, thanks for posting!
A question now... Have you determined that Nicopp tubing is comparable with the Ford fittings for fuel tanks, carburetors, fuel pumps, and flex lines?

[russcc]

Fedhill calls their nickel copper tubing Cunifer. Nicopp is apparently a knockoff name used by others. If you go on their web site, fedhill.com, it will explain what the tubing is compatible with and the OD's. The Ford fuel line is .250 OD, and that is a popular size they sell. I have not experimented with the special Ford fuel line nut, but it should work fine on the .250 tubing. Fedhill also sells fittings and other tubing parts. They have a superior flaring tool, and it is also available for rental for a big jobs. They seem to have a lot of the tubing bases covered with quality products. You can buy their tubing in lengths as short a 3' if that's all you need. It's expensive at about $5.00 a foot, but the ease of use, and quality make it worth it to me.

[mrtexas]

The nickel copper tubing seems way too limp to me and too easy to bend??